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Forums - Sales - Global HW & SW Up! 19th January

kumagawa said:
3DS down 18,000 year on year that is atrocious for the DS successor.

Nice deflection of all the other systems there. Equivalent week last year:

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
PS3 195,227 (-14%) 61,361,936
3DS 194,842 (-19%) 14,153,049
X360 185,962 (+5%) 64,397,856
Wii 121,648 (-17%) 94,237,184
PSP 75,829 (-14%) 73,264,093
DS 57,644 (-8%) 150,529,747
PSV 16,319 (-17%) 563,810
Total847,471(-12%) 

This week:

 

PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
40,404 39,099 86,936 176,740
26,503 47,748 19,484 112,583
46,933 30,437 621 84,816
12,587 7,933 16,373 39,390
14,307 12,891 2,052 32,605
1,250 2,700 16,128 32,191
15,739 10,050 145 28,336
7,180 10,390 8,846 28,269

 PS3 down 83k

360 down 101k

Wii down 88k

3DS down 18k

 

I wonder which I'd be more concerned about; especially when you consider the 3DS lineup.



 

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Pretty dreadful numbers all around.  Kind of crazy how things have changed in just three or so weeks.  You still had people claiming the Wii U was supply constrained and could sell ~250k a week this quarter.

It seems the Wii U has also dipped significantly compared to the Vita since last week.  It is also behind in every region for this week (just a note, this doesn't include full NA or others numbers since VGC doesn't include those breakdowns for weekly numbers.)

Vita
USA week 9: 15,606
EU week 8: 21,426
JP week 7: 18,636

Total: 55,668

Wii U
USA week 9: 11,590
EU week 8: 7,933
JP week 7: 16,373

Total: 35,896



maximrace said:
I think it's easy to understand. There is a marketshift towards apps. Most core gamers have the hdtwins and are waiting for the nextgen. The casual gamer who bought the wii, psp or ds isn't interested in gaming anymore because they have a tablet/ smartphone to game on. But casuals aren't that important for a core gaming console. So the nextbox/ ps 4 should do allright if they are aimed a tthe core market.

Agreed; and when these consoles launch it will likely assist the Wii U as well for it will really be "THE" next generation beginning (see how the 3DS increased in sales when the Vita launched etc, 360 when the Wii and PS3 launched etc.)



 

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benji232 said:
People gotta realise that the wiiU and psvita are not failing consoles/handheld, we are just going back to a gen6/7 type numbers. Which means, we should obviously expect much lower numbers weekly for all consoles in general. The casuals are gone to the smartphone and tablet market, and so what? Consoles lived way before these casuals weren't there and they will keep living again without them. The companies just gotta adjust themselves now.

Yeah, I gotta agree with this! I don't expect much of a growth in the HW sales this gen. It'll stay similar to the 7th gen, and perhaps as low as the 6th gen... Unless someone can lure vack the casuals



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kumagawa said:
3DS down 18,000 year on year that is atrocious for the DS successor.

And not surprsing at all considering last year the 3DS was still coming down from its bombastic 2011 Holiday season. MK7, SM3DL, MH3G. Didn't have anything near that last month. Thankfully its lineup for the rest of the year makes up for what will surely be a slow start.



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kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
How long until we have 6 platforms selling sub-50k?

Awful numbers for the majority.


Well May is the best chance. 360 down 40% would just about make that happen. Ps3 is on track to sell about 2m less in its 8th year than the 360 did. Sales are collapsing. Who would have thought it?  Me.

Wouldn't count the PS3 out just yet. Sony still has 2 cards to play.

1. Price cut to $199
2. Introduction of 12gig model in the US.



gronk-bonk said:
DanneSandin said:
Metallicube said:
runqvist said:
360 selling more than Wii+Wii U combined, this is awesome. :D Wii U selling less than 40k, gotta love those numbers.

No, I don't "gotta love those numbers" becuase I am a Nintendo fan. What a stupid thing to say..

You are a pretty sad human being if you are seriously that happy about your preferred piece of plastic beating on your hated piece of plastic. I don't care if this gets me banned either because its worth it. 

 

I totally agree with, but just let him be. He's a sorry excuse of a gamer, and nothing we say or do will change that. don't bother with this one.

Im not sure why he hasnt got banned yet. He is running amuck in this thread wth the sole purpose of pissing off people. It baffle me that a person can stoop so low.

I don't see a problem with his posts. He made it clear he is not a Nintendo fan and their failure woldn't hurt him at all. You guys are insulting him for that so you keep pushing him more and more. Its his opinion, respect it.



kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:

No, Nintendo dropping its price by $80, which lead to them selling it at a loss, is what saved the 3DS.  Nintendo can't do that with the Wii U, though they may be forced to, because they are already selling it at a pretty big loss. 

@ OP

Pretty bad numbers all around.  I do think the PS3, 360, and Vita will get price cuts, which will help with sales (the 360 less so).  To look on the bright side, at least Sony is making profit off of the Vita.  Can't say the same for Nintendo and the Wii U. 

I'd like to see the proof that they are making a profit on sales of he vita.  Factor in the advertising of the hardware and cost of producing games that aren't selling and this is one disastrous venture.  They expected for the project to be profitable after 3 years, no chance of that now. 

Well, just think of how much money Nintendo is losing if you factor in "the advertising of the hardware and cost of producing games that aren't selling."  Especially when you need to sell 2 or more $60 games to even come close to breaking even.  And the 3 year comment included R&D.  I'm speaking purely on manufactoring cost vs. retail price.  A qoute from Shuhei Yoshida backs my statement up. 

"For Vita, the price on performance was something we definitely wanted to hit, although we all agreed because we are PlayStation, people expect better graphics and prettier pictures, so we have all those things we wanted to achieve in terms of capabilities, but we capped our ambitions with a cost of goods target that we can profitably sell the hardware for $250.

To answer your question, we set out a goal: Yes, we're going to hit the $250 price, and no, we don't want to sell the hardware with a deficit. That's a goal we set out to do and I'm very happy we are achieving that."

So, at the very most, they are taking a slight loss on the $249 SKU, but it is made up for by a memory card or game purchase.



maximrace said:
I think it's easy to understand. There is a marketshift towards apps.

Oh really? Show me the big app game company's balance sheets.

Most core gamers have the hdtwins and are waiting for the nextgen.

Why wait? Aren't all the games they like out now? Why will next gen's games suddenly be attractive if current ones are not?

The casual gamer who bought the wii, psp or ds isn't interested in gaming anymore because they have a tablet/ smartphone to game on.

Are they spending the same amount of money on it? What you're actually seeing is $60 games no longer being worth it so people will take what they can get for 99c or free. That doesn't amount to actually not wanting console games, it means the ones they do want don't exist. And when they DO exist (CoD, Minecraft, Animal Crossing 3DS) suddenly we see lots of sales out of nowhere.

It's market apathy, not market shift.

But casuals aren't that important for a core gaming console.

Kinect didn't sell 20m then?

So the nextbox/ ps 4 should do allright if they are aimed a tthe core market.

wasn't the Wii U aimed at the core market?





Conegamer said:
maximrace said:
I think it's easy to understand. There is a marketshift towards apps. Most core gamers have the hdtwins and are waiting for the nextgen. The casual gamer who bought the wii, psp or ds isn't interested in gaming anymore because they have a tablet/ smartphone to game on. But casuals aren't that important for a core gaming console. So the nextbox/ ps 4 should do allright if they are aimed a tthe core market.

Agreed; and when these consoles launch it will likely assist the Wii U as well for it will really be "THE" next generation beginning (see how the 3DS increased in sales when the Vita launched etc, 360 when the Wii and PS3 launched etc.)


Maybe Wii U should get something like an app Market?? They have the interface for it... (the tablet). If they offer a generous enough incentive for developers, maybe they will port over... oh well.