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NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
DanneSandin said:

But it'll show if Nintendo gamers actually care for those kind of games...

All that game will do is show if "Nintendo Gamers" like that series, really. 

I don't think Bayonetta will tell us all too much.



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Otakumegane on 19 January 2013
BenVTrigger said:
Mr Khan said:
BenVTrigger said:
While Wii owners did support some of the 3rd party games they did a pretty poor job of supporting anything "Core" outside of Nintendo 1st party.

I'll get some major flack about what Im saying but its the truth. I can't blame 3rd parties for being hesitant about bring their big gun hardcore franchises over to the Wii U user base when theres little evidence theres a market for them there.

Wii U owners will have a major chance to put their money where their mouth is with Bayonetta 2. Its exclusive, isnt a late port, and isnt gimped on features. It's vitally important that game does well.

I expect heavy 3rd party support from Japan however as it appears Nintendo is really focused on that market

Funny. I don't recall Nintendo owners ever being given a chance to purchase a big-gun hardcore franchise. Outside of Monster Hunter, which we bought.


Dont mistake what Im saying.  I agree 3rd parties didnt do their best for Wii owners at all.  They gave really late, often shoddy ports.  And many times nothing at all.

Thats why Im saying Bayonetta 2 is VERY important.  Its exclusive, core, and fully designed for Wii U.  Nintendo fans need to support this title

I don't think many Nintendo fans will buy a sequel of a game they never got to play. 

ZombiU was exclusive, core, and fully WiiU designed and that only ended up selling decently, this trend cannot continue if we want 3rd party support. Personally I'm hoping MH3U does really well, so WiiU will at least get noticed in Japan.

I think western 3rd party just won't come, but at least I have a PC for that.



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BenVTrigger on 19 January 2013
ninjablade said:
BenVTrigger said:
Mr Khan said:
BenVTrigger said:
While Wii owners did support some of the 3 party games they did a pretty poor job of supporting anything "Core" outside of Nintendo 1st party.

I'll get some major flack about what Im saying but its the truth. I can't blame 3rd parties for being hesitant about bring their big gun hardcore franchises over to the Wii U user base when theres little evidence theres a market for them there.

Wii U owners will have a major chance to put their money where their mouth is with Bayonetta 2. Its exclusive, isnt a late port, and isnt gimped on features. It's vitally important that game does well.

I expect heavy 3rd party support from Japan however as it appears Nintendo is really focused on that market

Funny. I don't recall Nintendo owners ever being given a chance to purchase a big-gun hardcore franchise. Outside of Monster Hunter, which we bought.


Dont mistake what Im saying.  I agree 3rd parties didnt do their best for Wii owners at all.  They gave really late, often shoddy ports.  And many tikes nothing at all.

Thats why Im saying Bayonetta 2 is VERY important.  Its exclusive, core, and fully designed for Wii U.  Nintendo fans need to support this title

i think thats a horrible example, that game won't sell on ps3 or 360.

Doesnt sound like the best attitude to have about the Wii Us first big 3rd party exclusive



DanneSandin on 19 January 2013
NintendoPie said:
DanneSandin said:

But it'll show if Nintendo gamers actually care for those kind of games...

All that game will do is show if "Nintendo Gamers" like that series, really. 

I don't think Bayonetta will tell us all too much.

I think it will... The same goes for Monster Hunter. You could use that same argument on ALL 3rd party series that don't sell well on Nintendo consoles; "well, Nintendo gamers just don't like that series" - but if this holds true for A LOT of franchises, then we have to assume those kind of games don't sell on Nintendo consoles because the market isn't interested in those kind of experiences



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Maris on 19 January 2013
BenVTrigger said:

Doesnt sound like the best attitude to have about the Wii Us first big 3rd party exclusive

It's not a "big" 3rd party exclusive though. The original game didn't even break 2m in sales, and that was multiplatform across the PS3 and X360. I'm still looking forward to it, but I wouldn't count on that game to show anything significant about the Wii U's userbase.



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NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
DanneSandin said:

I think it will... The same goes for Monster Hunter. You could use that same argument on ALL 3rd party series that don't sell well on Nintendo consoles; "well, Nintendo gamers just don't like that series" - but if this holds true for A LOT of franchises, then we have to assume those kind of games don't sell on Nintendo consoles because the market isn't interested in those kind of experiences

I agree with the bolded. 

If a few franchises from third parties don't sell well on Wii U then that just mean most people don't like that franchise.



ninjablade on 19 January 2013
DanneSandin said:
ninjablade said:
BenVTrigger said:
Mr Khan said:
BenVTrigger said:
While Wii owners did support some of the 3rd party games they did a pretty poor job of supporting anything "Core" outside of Nintendo 1st party.

I'll get some major flack about what Im saying but its the truth. I can't blame 3rd parties for being hesitant about bring their big gun hardcore franchises over to the Wii U user base when theres little evidence theres a market for them there.

Wii U owners will have a major chance to put their money where their mouth is with Bayonetta 2. Its exclusive, isnt a late port, and isnt gimped on features. It's vitally important that game does well.

I expect heavy 3rd party support from Japan however as it appears Nintendo is really focused on that market

Funny. I don't recall Nintendo owners ever being given a chance to purchase a big-gun hardcore franchise. Outside of Monster Hunter, which we bought.


Dont mistake what Im saying.  I agree 3rd parties didnt do their best for Wii owners at all.  They gave really late, often shoddy ports.  And many tikes nothing at all.

Thats why Im saying Bayonetta 2 is VERY important.  Its exclusive, core, and fully designed for Wii U.  Nintendo fans need to support this title

i think thats a horrible example, that game won't sell on ps3 or 360.

But it'll show if Nintendo gamers actually care for those kind of games...

well see but i doubt it will sell good.



ninjablade on 19 January 2013
BenVTrigger said:
ninjablade said:
BenVTrigger said:
Mr Khan said:
BenVTrigger said:
While Wii owners did support some of the 3 party games they did a pretty poor job of supporting anything "Core" outside of Nintendo 1st party.

I'll get some major flack about what Im saying but its the truth. I can't blame 3rd parties for being hesitant about bring their big gun hardcore franchises over to the Wii U user base when theres little evidence theres a market for them there.

Wii U owners will have a major chance to put their money where their mouth is with Bayonetta 2. Its exclusive, isnt a late port, and isnt gimped on features. It's vitally important that game does well.

I expect heavy 3rd party support from Japan however as it appears Nintendo is really focused on that market

Funny. I don't recall Nintendo owners ever being given a chance to purchase a big-gun hardcore franchise. Outside of Monster Hunter, which we bought.


Dont mistake what Im saying.  I agree 3rd parties didnt do their best for Wii owners at all.  They gave really late, often shoddy ports.  And many tikes nothing at all.

Thats why Im saying Bayonetta 2 is VERY important.  Its exclusive, core, and fully designed for Wii U.  Nintendo fans need to support this title

i think thats a horrible example, that game won't sell on ps3 or 360.

Doesnt sound like the best attitude to have about the Wii Us first big 3rd party exclusive

It doesn't have to be exclusive to sell systems or sell great, COD was not exclusive, yet it was the best seller and best system seller.



DanneSandin on 19 January 2013
ninjablade said:
DanneSandin said:
ninjablade said:
BenVTrigger said:
Mr Khan said:
BenVTrigger said:
While Wii owners did support some of the 3rd party games they did a pretty poor job of supporting anything "Core" outside of Nintendo 1st party.

I'll get some major flack about what Im saying but its the truth. I can't blame 3rd parties for being hesitant about bring their big gun hardcore franchises over to the Wii U user base when theres little evidence theres a market for them there.

Wii U owners will have a major chance to put their money where their mouth is with Bayonetta 2. Its exclusive, isnt a late port, and isnt gimped on features. It's vitally important that game does well.

I expect heavy 3rd party support from Japan however as it appears Nintendo is really focused on that market

Funny. I don't recall Nintendo owners ever being given a chance to purchase a big-gun hardcore franchise. Outside of Monster Hunter, which we bought.


Dont mistake what Im saying.  I agree 3rd parties didnt do their best for Wii owners at all.  They gave really late, often shoddy ports.  And many tikes nothing at all.

Thats why Im saying Bayonetta 2 is VERY important.  Its exclusive, core, and fully designed for Wii U.  Nintendo fans need to support this title

i think thats a horrible example, that game won't sell on ps3 or 360.

But it'll show if Nintendo gamers actually care for those kind of games...

well see but i doubt it will sell good.

Yeah I doubt it as well... It should be lucky to see 1m sales...



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TheBardsSong on 19 January 2013

I hope like everyone buys Bayonetta 2. Those are the kind of games I want to continue seeing on Wii U.