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kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
PS3 is the only relevant hardware in Europe. 3DS is the only relevant hardware Worldwide.


....and yet it is down over 40% YOY.

Shows how fast things are declining.  The predictions of a slow and steady decline over 4 years or more for the PS3 were ridiculous, the predictions of "possibly flat" for this year were insanity.

Pricecut, colours, games. Releasing the cheap model in America would be a start, too.

price cut only makes a difference now... even then its a short term blip. 

the cheap version is out in Europe... its down 40%


The cheap version as in, cheaper to make for Sony or in retail? The MSRP is still €249 officially.

Once there is an official pricecut to €199 you think it will just ba short term blip? PS3 came near that price during the holidays, and you know how well it did.

Carl was referring to the 12BG, which is about £175.


Could be, any idea thats the msrp of that model? PS3 didn't have an official pricecut since 2011.



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Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:

price cut only makes a difference now... even then its a short term blip. 

the cheap version is out in Europe... its down 40%

Which is why I said pricecut, colours and games. Not just a pricecut.

When was the last big exclusive released on PS3?

Of course new games are going to shift sales for older consoles. That's the reason why PS3, for one continues to outsell Wii U. It has a vastly superior game library, but also right now has the better upcoming exclusives. The problem for Wii U is, it doesn't have enough of them. As a result, PS3 should sell more over 2013. 



Gehirnkrampf said:
Haha. Nintendo fans dont believe it.better get used to it , we the vita fans are now your brothers in doom.

Yeah, the disbelieve in some of my fellow fan-bros is incredible. There is no doubt that the WiiU sells bad, and that I do say although I have one in this room. It's a little sad, but I don't feel too bad, because I bought the system for the games already out or coming in Q1. So I'm OK with this so far. But I know, I would get more games with better sales. So buy more WiiU, please, dor me!



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All these discussions aside...

Come on people, are we believing these preliminary numbers? It's Monday for Pete's sake.

If these are all true, everything is extremely bad. WiiU and Vita completely awful. This year would become the worst year ever!



kowenicki said:
S.Peelman said:
All these discussions aside...

Come on people, are we believing these preliminary numbers? It's Monday for Pete's sake.

If these are all true, everything is extremely bad. WiiU and Vita completely awful. It would be the worst year ever!


but it will be the worst year for a very long time.  Its inevitable.

It will. Until the next generation transition .



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kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:

1.6 million gap.

PS3 outselling 360 by 50 k each week on average.

7-8 months is 1.8 million. Thats around August 2013. Unless MS does a LONG OVERDUE 360 price drop.

Best case scenario for PS guys is August 2013. Worst case is after November.

don't forget all the exclusives coming out in Q1 & Q2 (beyond, LoU, GoW, Sly, Puppeteer, Ni No Kuni).  PS3 could get some big spikes from a couple of those.  Also I think Sony has some room to maneuver with the cheaper slim.  They will cut price if Microsoft does I feel.

Nah casuals wont be swayed by core games this late in the gen. Core gamers allready made their choices.

So God of War and Last of Us won't provide any sales spike?  I guess Halo and Gears don't help Xbox when they have a release anymore...oh wait.

No. They wont.  Go check some history.  You MIGHT get a slight bump, but no spike of anything major.


The problem with that is, you just see a temporary slight increase in sales but that doesn't factor in the long term benefit that a big esteemed game has on hardware sales. e.g. Someone decides to buy a ps3 or xbox because of playing on a friend's call of duty game that's already been out a year. It DOES affect the long term trends as well. That's why 2011 was such a good year for ps3 sales despite it being around for 5 years- the games were shifting the hardware consistently through the year.  



kowenicki said:
Turkish said:

Could be, any idea thats the msrp of that model? PS3 didn't have an official pricecut since 2011.

£199.99 I think.


I don't know if this is relevant, but I thought the whole 'thing' about the slim PS3 was that Sony was allowing retailers to price it as they saw fit:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/19/ps3-super-slim-announced-sony

This article mentioned that it should be selling at around £180.



ManUtdFan said:

Amazon bestsellers list over the past week doesn't concur with what US sales are saying on here. I could be wrong but the gap between xbox360 and ps3 doesn't seem plausible.    

halo 4 was the nr.1 of 2012 on amazon, that also doesn't concur with vgc numbers (and obviously also not with real numbers if we check npd and as example cod blops2)

amazon is amazon and not whole usa.



Chandler said:

Another thread for my "Wii U Doom" folder :D

 

Anyway, I have a feeling that we have been here before, with the 3DS. The console will keep struggling until games release, it's the same with the Vita and I'm not making excuses unlike some other people did half a year ago. But Panictendo is best 'tendo, so I'm not worried. With the console doing this poorly, I might even get some free stuff down the line. Also, I know what games the console will get and so I already know 100% that the purchase was worth it, unlike my PSV, where I still struggle to find THAT game. I hope Soul Sacrifice and God Eater 2 will rectify this, but right now both consoles perform poorly, but Wii U does still better than the PSV, so I'm content.


Now I know why I bought the WiiU that early. I want my ambassador games.



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sales2099 said:
pezus said:
WiiU fans are now in the exact same position Vita fans were in last year. WiiU sales weekly sales have met up (down) with Vita sales for the comparable week.

??

Vita launched after 3ds. WiiU is technically winning next gen.

Come on. The Wii crunched the LTD-sales of the X360 in short time. The WiiU is starting to sell below what the X360 did in it's first year. Yes, it is one week so far, but consoles usually have a momentum that makes most weeks about the same without big releases. This momentum seems to be low for the WiiU.



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