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Are you for or against gay marriage?

For 290 49.49%
 
Against 171 29.18%
 
don't know 16 2.73%
 
whatever who cares? 108 18.43%
 
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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
sperrico87 said:

My personal feelings are that, within my family, and with regards to raising my children, I will not tolerate homosexual marriage, and it will not be discussed or given any credibility in my home. Homosexual behavior ceases procreation, and therefore it serves no meaningful purpose, and is merely a social act with no significance.

So, you say, in case your son or daughter cannot procreate (from some illness or so), you will not allow them to marry?



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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
Boutros said:

Dude they'll marry our girlfriends.

 

 

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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
killerzX said:

i can guarentee that no child of mine will be born gay.


I can guarantee you, that the moon is made out of cheese.



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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
killerzX said:

now please shutup and dont speak to me.

Well, I see no point in discussing with you, because it always only refers to the same cycle of arguments.

But I have to say that being against homosexuality is in my opinion something completely unnatural. As we have watched homsexual behaviour in many species of animals, it is clear that homosexuality is something that happens in nature and is therefore natural. Being against homosexuality/forbidding the own childrens to become homosexual is therefore something completely unnatural. I will guarantee my children will not be against homosexuality. I will not allow such unnatural abnormity.

That said, I also respect people that are against homosexuality as human beings and wish them and you a long and fulfilling life.

Now please shutup and dont speak to me.



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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
timmah said:
Jay520 said:
timmah said:

Not jumping on the bandwagon here, just playing devil's advocate.

If you consider the definition of a disorder: A medical condition involving a disturbance to the usual functioning of the mind or body.

Then consider that, the purely natural purpose of the sexual functions of the human body (outside of pleasure and personal enjoyment) are for reproduction, and natural reproduction is impossible in homosexual activity. This could technically classify it as a disorder by the strict definition of the word.


By that definition, anyone who chooses to live a life of abstinence (e.g many monks) suffers from a psychological disorder. When you define it that way, disorders aren't that bad.

Abstaining from an activity is not the same as engaging in an activity that is counter to the natural purpose of the activity, so I wouldn't see a good argument for Monks having a disorder. I do think calling homosexuality a disorder could be an overly broad application of the term, but still there are interesting points to be made either way.

So people who do not eat have no eating disorder?

Also homosexuality is natural, homosexual behaviour was discovered in many species.



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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
menx64 said:

I said, evolution and human reproduction... The only two real reasons, yet nobody replied to it. I am sure if I would have said religion I would have gotten tens of answers.

Well, evolution was the process that created homosexuality in the first place. It has some evolutionary advantage, even if we don't know yet for sure what it is, otherwise it wouldn't be so common in nature.

Human reproduction is also no answer, because based on that we would have also to disallow marriages of infertile or old people.

If that are the two only real reasons, that means no real reasons are left.



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Mnementh on 20 January 2013
Michael-5 said:

Randon mutations are not genetic traits. Homosexuality isn't inhertitable, like genes are. There is a huge difference. First of all errors in DNA replication are repairable, there have been significant advances in serching for cures for autism because of gene manipulative therapy. Second not all Random mutations occur in the DNA replication period. Mutations can occur during pregnancy, and many can be caused by environment. We don't know for certain where the mutations occur which cause homosexuality.

You claim homosexuality is a mutation? Please say, you didn't do that. Because that is very wrong.

Don't misunderstand me, that doesn't mean there is a homoseuality gene or that it is choice or that it is learned in the childhood or whatever. But homosexuality is no spontaneous mutation that happens in millions individuals (humans and animals) randomly to a similar effect. That simply is completely wrong.



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herzausstein on 20 January 2013

i personally don't care but for the sake of argument ....

it's an evolutionary dead end.



Jay520 on 20 January 2013

Making five consecutive post is considered spamming.

Stop spamming.



Mnementh on 20 January 2013
Jay520 said:
Making five consecutive post is considered spamming.

Stop spamming.


Is it? I was going through the thread and answering posts that I thought needed an answer? Is that really wrong here?



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