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I must say, I'm rather disappointed in most of the other responses in this thread. Half of you decided to use a person's cry for help as a reason to jump into a debate about god. Most of the other half either dismiss the guy as an idiot (yeah, I'm sure that'll make him feel better...), make a smartarse remark, or give advice like "be a man" or "try interacting with humans"... I'm sorry, but don't you have the remotest amount of compassion? Even if the guy is really just trolling, there's absolutely NO reason to respond in any of those ways.

Even if he is just doing it for attention, you have to ask, why does he want the attention? When it comes down to it, the response is the same whether he's seeking attention or being completely honest - suggest ways to resolve the issue at hand (and like I said, ways to resolve the issue are pretty much the same in both cases).



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:

Yeah well, I went on a holiday for 8 days from dec 2012 to jan 2013.

I saw a lot of couples holding hands and such and it just made me so lonely at times. Especially at new year's eve.

I went on to say sorry to this girl in and she ended up calling me a brother. I was looking for a meaningful relation ship with her but I was depressed for a very short time afterwards. (A few minutes or so lol). But then I thought... well she "brother zoned" me, I've got to start somewhere and I think being a 'brother' to this girl is a good place to start.

Im working on it

Despite those depressing few minutes, it somehow gave me great satisfaction that I didn't emotionally hurt her as much as I thought I did. But then I also got a response indicating that she doesn't like me as much as I thought she did. After all, its only a fb message and I've yet to see her face to face since then.

Kinda weird that I feel so damn attracted to her but not to other more attractive girls (she's cute nonetheless).

Just stop right here. Girls friendzone guys in 99% of the cases to not hurt their feelings. Its a polite way to say you are not making me wet. I personally never knew a guy who came out of the so called friendzone which really most of the time doesn't even mean you are a friend (or brother in your case). It often just means I can tolerate your presence to a certain extent.

If a girl wants you they will show it clearly its impossible to not pick up on their advances unless they would just settle for you if nobody comes around. Then you get mixed signals which often leads to confussion.

Sexual attraction is just as important as a compatibility to the character of the girl.

It seems like people think its shallow not to pretend like hotness is not a factor but thats just a lie.

 So I am saving you alot of time and say it right now: You are not hot enough for her and your character and other attributes don't make up for your unadequate attractivness.

The uglier you are the more points you have to collect in other fields to be considered a suitable mate.

Do you know why douchbags often get the girl ? They are almost always good looking or the alpha in their group. Which is why they can afford to be douchbags. 

Later ofcourse they mature enough and stop the douchbaggery or take a submissive girl. Ok here some ways to handle the situation:

 

So lets recap you, clearly are not good enough for her right now. Depending on what she dislikes about you, you can eventually fix that, the problem is she will never tell you what it is, often she doesn't realize it herself. Just try to improve yourself in whatever area you think its right. If you are fat lose weight. If her exes were fat, gain weight. If they were thin like rails run alot and eat less. If you dress like a hobo get into fashion and learn to dress the necessary way.  

Ok the exterior look is the easier part and can be quite effective girls are just as influenced as guys, some more some less there is a base line of acceptable looks most people have. Some might pretend not to but just so they seem not shallow or because they themselfs are not exactly good looking. We are preprogrammed to desire healthy mates with good genes. Looks and the pherhomones you produce are the signals for health besides the obvious symptoms of disease. So if you want this girl superbad try to change your body/clothes.

 

This will give you an advantage but there is only so much you can do. But luckily men can boost their attractivness way higher through other means.

First we have the obvious money. Ofcourse this one is hard certainly a long term solution. Money signalizes to women that you are doing something of value that you are productive in some form that you can handle your life. This are attractive qualities in a man and women pick up on that. Ofcourse not having money doesn't automatically mean you can't handle your life  but its a good thing to have going for you in any case. Women are attracted to males with money also due to the sense of security money gives. The poorer a woman the more points is having money going to give you. Don't forget everyone who is about to starve is automatically a hooker. Its not shallow being attracted to money to a certain extent. But what women also value is men who are trying. The point where money stops playing a role is when everybody has it.

 

Ok now we come to your personality. This is harder then the first things it also depends on the woman what kind of guy she prefers but here are some points which will help:

Be respected in your social group. It doesn't matter if you are the king of nerds women are attracted to the alpha which doesn't mean beating people up and being loud. But if others value your opinion and look up to you for something you can do like certain skills its attractive. Women really melt when you are good at something they respect. And even if they think its silly its still better than doing nothing it only turns into a minus if it annoys them or they disapprove of it.

Also being social is important to some degree. And you can only be akward if you are cute. Awkward and not cute is a bad mix.

 

Words are not that important to women. You can't say the right stuff so she suddenly falls in love with you. Thats the main problem with guys in the friendzone. They think there is nothing that is wrong with them and aslong as they hang around and say the right stuff or buy her stuff she magically falls in love. They hope that she will meet a row of insufferable assholes or will be desperate enough to take them in the future. But they don't realize that they are not good enough.

Who would want to have a relationship and sex with a person which lacks something you want.

Girls are all different to a degree sure but every girl has some things she likes to have in a man she wants for a relationship and often a different set of rules for just sex. Which are just looks and social attributes. I personally am friends with a guy who was never denied sex in his whole life by any girl. He just uses his power rationally but this kind of appeal can not be copied.

 

All the things mentioned above can get her to fall in love with you or atleast have sex with you. But you can't fake it you have to want to be the type of guy she wants to be with or it will not work and you will fail anyway. All those points will help you but changing just for a girl wont help you. And even if you get all the points by developing the urge to want all of that what she secretly sees as something she wants, you have to forget about her to even get started.

This is why there is no way out of the friendzone but be glad the tables often turn when you grow up if you are a man. Alot of the hot girls withered away within few years and became fat old stressed out moms a lot of guys became frustrated disillusioned and lazy with no hair (in their twenties),  its funny how life can change in a few years. 

I also found out what love really means its not just wanting a girl but truly be able to miss her and stand her presence in your daily life. 

And to find out if you love someone you have to be close already and not just being in her presence playing friends. If your hormones settle down you can end up noticing all the flaws she has and this time actually give a shit.

That means there is no way that you love her you just think you do. There are over 3.5 Billion Women on this planet and I can guarantee you she isn't the best woman you will meet (assuming you meet a normal amount of people in your life). 

My final advice to you. Forget her and go on do what you really want to do and if she changes her mind about you fine. If not wait for a girl which wants you with all your current flaws.

Think about it that way. You meet a girl but she fails to attract you for whatever reasons. She makes advances but you say no and lets be friends to not hurt her feelings.  She starts to orbit around you like a satellite but she is nice and you enjoy hanging out with her as friend, she turns out to be a really good friend helps you out alot and likes to talk with you but thats it for you. There is a dead end here. This girl will not change her mind. Hoping she will and waiting for her is the worst thing you can do. Get a gf of your own this might make her curios but date a girl in her league atleast. She will wonder if she misjudged you and rethink her standards which could turn out positive for you.  

But the reason I wrote this in the first place is not to give you dating advice but to show you clearly waiting in the friendzone will not help you. Stay in contact but keep on living without annoying her with relationship stuff or being super emotional all the time (this also works only when cute but not for long unless you are super cute) your post reads like a failure waiting to happen and could cost you time, that you can't get back anymore.

 

 

 

 

 



First off, if you feel like this you should go get actual help from a doctor that can give you real advice. Nothing any of the previous posts have said can constitute real medical advice so you need to do that asap. Like now.

Second off, I'm really disappointing in the community here that it took 10 hours for someone (this post) to tell him to go get help (unless someone did and I missed it, sorry if that is true). Even if he is not serious you need to treat it as though it is.

@OP: No really go seek out a professional.



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Netyaroze said:

 

Roma said:

yes it is a laughing matter because you guys have had people telling of what is going to happen if you do not obey yet you chose not to believe it

btw I'm only using "laughing" because it was mentioned in the quote as he stated how the atheists would laugh at the believers

 

I don't think I would enter heaven if I was going to literally laugh at burning people

You think it makes a difference for god if you literally laugh or not when you think its a laughing matter. He would know what you feel anyway.

 

If there is a god he is nothing like any religions describe and will have all the knowledge to perfectly judge the true being of a human. You think all the people went to hell by default before the jews/christians/muslims ?

Gods will is not printed anywhere if he created existence he must be far out of reach for human understanding. Any action from god would be enough to get the desired result. So he doesn't want anything from us or we would do what he wants automatically.  If life is a test its pointless to even run this test he could put the people into hell from the start he obviously knows what will happen anyway. If god exists he would have just one reasonable goal. Do everything at once. Everything else is not a worthy task for an omnipotent being.

 

To OP: Stop moping around. Its a waste of time. Change yourself and your life, nothing will truly change if you don't do it yourself.

I always find it Interesting that some people who do believe a God yet do not fallow any of the religions don't do it because they think he would not communicate with his creation.


Why would God not show you the way and then let you chose if you want to fallow it or not?



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Roma said:
Netyaroze said:

 

Roma said:

yes it is a laughing matter because you guys have had people telling of what is going to happen if you do not obey yet you chose not to believe it

btw I'm only using "laughing" because it was mentioned in the quote as he stated how the atheists would laugh at the believers

 

I don't think I would enter heaven if I was going to literally laugh at burning people

You think it makes a difference for god if you literally laugh or not when you think its a laughing matter. He would know what you feel anyway.

 

If there is a god he is nothing like any religions describe and will have all the knowledge to perfectly judge the true being of a human. You think all the people went to hell by default before the jews/christians/muslims ?

Gods will is not printed anywhere if he created existence he must be far out of reach for human understanding. Any action from god would be enough to get the desired result. So he doesn't want anything from us or we would do what he wants automatically.  If life is a test its pointless to even run this test he could put the people into hell from the start he obviously knows what will happen anyway. If god exists he would have just one reasonable goal. Do everything at once. Everything else is not a worthy task for an omnipotent being.

 

To OP: Stop moping around. Its a waste of time. Change yourself and your life, nothing will truly change if you don't do it yourself.

I always find it Interesting that some people who do believe a God yet do not fallow any of the religions don't do it because they think he would not communicate with his creation.


Why would God not show you the way and then let you chose if you want to fallow it or not?


If in show you the way mean bible or its cousins its just not logical. First of all what is the point in showing us the way ? To let us choose the "right" path from our free will. Lets say god decides for reasons unknown to create a book with arbitrary rules just to see who follows and who not. And he decides to punish everyone who doesn't follow for eternity. 

But he hints with a book at the correct path but just doing that will result in humans being so influenced that they basically don't even decide to be good according to their own free will but because they are afraid of being punished if they don't follow the rules. So this method can't be what god bases his decision on. Religion is not the deciding factor to seperate good from evil.

 

Its also inconciveable that god would give out a certain information which helps to avoid unimaginable pain for eternity but only gives restricted people access to it. And others end up in hell for no reason because god never told them how to avoid hell. Thats the ultimate troll.

 

Its so random and stupid to do that. I mean why ? Unless people go automatically to heaven if they die before realizing christianity exists. But bad people would end up in heaven too. So ofcourse god has to sort out the people that are bad and just the good people who never heared about the bible end up in heaven but what if you follow all the criteria god sees as good but are not religious and you end up in hell while this 20 year old jungle kid died as good as you but never heared of the bible still gets into heaven while you don't.

 

The too obvious nature of communicating through religion the massive change of all future events that unfold thus making free will pointless, and all the paradox situations this leads to, makes religion in all cases a fundamentally flawed way to show the right path to everyone. Besides creating Billions of living beings knowing what will happen and punishing them later seems sadistic. Creating a being to torture it later for eternity is psychopathic and sick. Its like breeding cows and the ones who step on certain circles drawn on the ground of a big ranch will be cared for, the others will be tortured to the point they die and will be revived for all eternity and tortured again.

I am not ruling out god exists but what I rule out is a path to salvation written on a piece of paper. Nobody knows the truth because if god exists he HAS TO not interfere at all because its impossible to impose a will of any kind on us, without influencing everything and altering the path of the future thus taking away our free will. I am not even sure he could replace a stone without altering the future forever. He lets just play things out and sets new things in motion to allow them to exist. I just see no possible reason for god to want something from us he is god and allpowerful. What would he want anyway. Its impossible that he has desires. 

 

 

 

 



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Netyaroze said:
Roma said:
Netyaroze said:

 

Roma said:

yes it is a laughing matter because you guys have had people telling of what is going to happen if you do not obey yet you chose not to believe it

btw I'm only using "laughing" because it was mentioned in the quote as he stated how the atheists would laugh at the believers

 

I don't think I would enter heaven if I was going to literally laugh at burning people

You think it makes a difference for god if you literally laugh or not when you think its a laughing matter. He would know what you feel anyway.

 

If there is a god he is nothing like any religions describe and will have all the knowledge to perfectly judge the true being of a human. You think all the people went to hell by default before the jews/christians/muslims ?

Gods will is not printed anywhere if he created existence he must be far out of reach for human understanding. Any action from god would be enough to get the desired result. So he doesn't want anything from us or we would do what he wants automatically.  If life is a test its pointless to even run this test he could put the people into hell from the start he obviously knows what will happen anyway. If god exists he would have just one reasonable goal. Do everything at once. Everything else is not a worthy task for an omnipotent being.

 

To OP: Stop moping around. Its a waste of time. Change yourself and your life, nothing will truly change if you don't do it yourself.

I always find it Interesting that some people who do believe a God yet do not fallow any of the religions don't do it because they think he would not communicate with his creation.


Why would God not show you the way and then let you chose if you want to fallow it or not?


If in show you the way mean bible or its cousins its just not logical. First of all what is the point in showing us the way ? To let us choose the "right" path from our free will. Lets say god decides for reasons unknown to create a book with arbitrary rules just to see who follows and who not. And he decides to punish everyone who doesn't follow for eternity. 

But he hints with a book at the correct path but just doing that will result in humans being so influenced that they basically don't even decide to be good according to their own free will but because they are afraid of being punished if they don't follow the rules. So this method can't be what god bases his decision on. Religion is not the deciding factor to seperate good from evil.

 

Its also inconciveable that god would give out a certain information which helps to avoid unimaginable pain for eternity but only gives restricted people access to it. And others end up in hell for no reason because god never told them how to avoid hell. Thats the ultimate troll.

 

Its so random and stupid to do that. I mean why ? Unless people go automatically to heaven if they die before realizing christianity exists. But bad people would end up in heaven too. So ofcourse god has to sort out the people that are bad and just the good people who never heared about the bible end up in heaven but what if you follow all the criteria god sees as good but are not religious and you end up in hell while this 20 year old jungle kid died as good as you but never heared of the bible still gets into heaven while you don't.

 

The too obvious nature of communicating through religion the massive change of all future events that unfold thus making free will pointless, and all the paradox situations this leads to, makes religion in all cases a fundamentally flawed way to show the right path to everyone. Besides creating Billions of living beings knowing what will happen and punishing them later seems sadistic. Creating a being to torture it later for eternity is psychopathic and sick. Its like breeding cows and the ones who step on certain circles drawn on the ground of a big ranch will be cared for, the others will be tortured to the point they die and will be revived for all eternity and tortured again.

I am not ruling out god exists but what I rule out is a path to salvation written on a piece of paper. Nobody knows the truth because if god exists he HAS TO not interfere at all because its impossible to impose a will of any kind on us, without influencing everything and altering the path of the future thus taking away our free will. I am not even sure he could replace a stone without altering the future forever. He lets just play things out and sets new things in motion to allow them to exist. I just see no possible reason for god to want something from us he is god and allpowerful. What would he want anyway. Its impossible that he has desires. 

 

 

 

 

Sorry I won't waist my time explaining things to everybody that disagrees. there is lots of information on the net you can either chose to research or ignore it and you will find out when you die if what you did was correct or wrong.

I have chosen my path which is Islam also I don't fear death like most non religious people do. It's all about doing as many things you can before you die and have as much fun as you can because you only live once lol. for me it's living a normal life but I obey God to my best of abilities and still have fun and do what I want in life as long as it is within the boundaries of what does not hurt me or others. I only live once and if I do not obey God I will risk burning in hell for the sake of having "fun" in my life and ignoring everything God told me in the Quran!
 
and with that I will leave this discussion!



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Aielyn said:
I must say, I'm rather disappointed in most of the other responses in this thread. Half of you decided to use a person's cry for help as a reason to jump into a debate about god. Most of the other half either dismiss the guy as an idiot (yeah, I'm sure that'll make him feel better...), make a smartarse remark, or give advice like "be a man" or "try interacting with humans"... I'm sorry, but don't you have the remotest amount of compassion? Even if the guy is really just trolling, there's absolutely NO reason to respond in any of those ways.

Even if he is just doing it for attention, you have to ask, why does he want the attention? When it comes down to it, the response is the same whether he's seeking attention or being completely honest - suggest ways to resolve the issue at hand (and like I said, ways to resolve the issue are pretty much the same in both cases).

The "suck it up" response is good in small doses, but never for big problems.

I agree, however. Many on this board have a frightful lack of compassion.



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tonymarraffa said:

The last few weeks I've been feeling hopeless and nothing really can take away the extreme feeling of emptiness that surrounds me. I have like this real feeling of dread. All I wanna do is sleep. I watch tv and I cry at the smallest things. Memories hurt. Days seem like an endless circle of disappointment. I think of death all the time. I'm lonely. No matter where I am I feel like I'm not comfortable in my skin. I read something here today that hurt my feelings and I don't know why it would. I miss the good times, years ago when I felt like I mattered, when the future was open when happiness was still possible. Oh well


Aww Tony ill be your friend :) well go to the pub for chats and giggles haha *hugs*



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