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Aielyn on 30 December 2012
KylieDog said:
 ... and what actually goes on in a lot of porn.  

You don't need to watch porn to know what goes on in it, there are plenty of news reports and articles that discuss it, I'll quote something from a reporter on one of the more extreme types.

Because of course the media is going to spend a lot of time talking about the non-disgusting, non-controversial porn, and therefore represents a good cross-section of what sort of porn is most common, right?

You're like those idiots that notice that some homicides involve a murderer who is reported to have played violent video games, and concludes that homicides are caused by violent video games. The media isn't going to report that a particular murderer didn't play violent video games, and thus a false belief forms that there's some correlation.

The fact of the matter is, most porn isn't nearly as controversial as the one you just mentioned. Most isn't controversial at all. Many involve silly little storylines like the well-known stereotypical one of the handyman who comes to fix some problem at a woman's house, and the woman ends up coming on to him. The vast majority don't bother with storylines, and instead are really nothing more than people having sex in various ways (in a large portion of the cases, in relatively mundane ways), with various camera angles.

Simple logic is all I expect. I don't call for political correctness, only actual correctness. If you cannot make claims that are backed up by something more solid than "look at this one specific example", then your opinions are worthless.



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Kantor on 30 December 2012
KylieDog said:
Mnementh said:

The main claim against porn from a feminist point of view is, that it objectifies women. As does your avatar. Surely, the cleavage is no porn, but it is objectifying women. So, from the angle you criticised porn it is comparable to your avatar.


Again, politically correct bullshit that ignores the details and trivialises real issues.  'Objectifies women' vs cleavage and what actually goes on in a lot of porn. 

You don't need to watch porn to know what goes on in it, there are plenty of news reports and articles that discuss it, I'll quote something from a reporter on one of the more extreme types. 


"In Max Hardcore movies--"Anal Agony," "Hardcore Schoolgirls," "Max! Don't F**k Up My Mommy!"--women are verbally and physically degraded in an unprecedented myriad of ways. They are choked, slapped, throat-****ed, penetrated with fists, given enemas, pile-driven, urinated upon, vomited upon, and in some instances instructed to drink from glasses the money shots that have been delivered into their rectums.

Not infrequently, his scenes are fraught with pedophilia themes, beginning when he stumbles upon his subjects in playgrounds, where they sit alone, in pigtails, talking baby-talk, and sucking on lollipops. Mostly, the sex scenes end with his latest costar a mess and Hardcore triumphant.

Watching Little's work is less like watching a porn movie than it is akin to witnessing a vivisection. On the screen, Hardcore bends over the female bodies before him, sometimes with speculum in hand, as if attempting to get at something within her at which he can never quite get, and so to which he is doomed to return, his methods more and more hardcore."


He ended up going to jail, though there are plenty others like him.  Oh, but a video game character is showing cleavage, so it is totally comparable to the above.

So you are comparing the work of one director to an entire industry.

This seems to me no better than dismissing all games as mindless violence because of Manhunt 2.



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Mnementh on 30 December 2012
KylieDog said:
Mnementh said:

The main claim against porn from a feminist point of view is, that it objectifies women. As does your avatar. Surely, the cleavage is no porn, but it is objectifying women. So, from the angle you criticised porn it is comparable to your avatar.


Again, politically correct bullshit that ignores the details and trivialises real issues.  'Objectifies women' vs cleavage and what actually goes on in a lot of porn. 

You don't need to watch porn to know what goes on in it, there are plenty of news reports and articles that discuss it, I'll quote something from a reporter on one of the more extreme types.


"In Max Hardcore movies--"Anal Agony," "Hardcore Schoolgirls," "Max! Don't F**k Up My Mommy!"--women are verbally and physically degraded in an unprecedented myriad of ways. They are choked, slapped, throat-****ed, penetrated with fists, given enemas, pile-driven, urinated upon, vomited upon, and in some instances instructed to drink from glasses the money shots that have been delivered into their rectums.

Not infrequently, his scenes are fraught with pedophilia themes, beginning when he stumbles upon his subjects in playgrounds, where they sit alone, in pigtails, talking baby-talk, and sucking on lollipops. Mostly, the sex scenes end with his latest costar a mess and Hardcore triumphant.

Watching Little's work is less like watching a porn movie than it is akin to witnessing a vivisection. On the screen, Hardcore bends over the female bodies before him, sometimes with speculum in hand, as if attempting to get at something within her at which he can never quite get, and so to which he is doomed to return, his methods more and more hardcore."


He ended up going to jail, though there are plenty others like him.  Oh, but a video game character is showing cleavage, so it is totally comparable to the above.

Well, I thought we talked about porn in general (as we don't know which porn was found on the 3DS). You talk specifically about some sick crap, not about porn in general. So I retract my statement. An question to the end: What do you call movies showing people make sex?



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Baron on 30 December 2012
KylieDog said:
Baron said:
KylieDog, Why are you talking about the degradation of women in porn when both your avatar and signature feature pictures that are only made to arouse? If you're so respectful of women couldn't you have taken a picture of Jill Valentine without a 20 inch cleavage? And the pic in your signature of the girl with her breasts almost falling out of her dress? Is that not depicting women in a certain way? Or does it only become vile when a penile object comes into play?

It looks to me like you're perfectly fine with women being portrayed as sex objects.


Really you're comparing cleavage to porn?  This level of idiocy isn't even worth replying to further.


Thanks for confirming how much of a hypocrit you are.



TripleMMM on 30 December 2012

I knew this will turn into something more when The Dawg comes along. K.D. I see where you're coming from, hell, I even hate the stuffs you say about b****-slapping and etc to the girls, but you're really blowing it out of proportion...



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