JayWood2010 said: Gehirnkrampf said: Bundling is a bad thing, and we should substract the numbers coming from bundles from the total sales. Why should we take away from sales exactly?  It is a business strategy and what is important is getting these great games into the customer's hands.

because once a game becomes bundled, you aren't able to call it a success here on vgchartz without spawing random people downplaying the success. because, you know, a bundle sale is no real sale, because it's free. and bundling two games is much worse, because if i want only one game from it, the sale for the other is not valid, because i am going to buy the bundle and throw away the title i don't want to have. that's why bundling is bad.

Gehirnkrampf said: JayWood2010 said: Gehirnkrampf said: Bundling is a bad thing, and we should substract the numbers coming from bundles from the total sales. Why should we take away from sales exactly?  It is a business strategy and what is important is getting these great games into the customer's hands.   because once a game becomes bundled, you aren't able to call it a success here on vgchartz without spawing random people downplaying the success. because, you know, a bundle sale is no real sale, because it's free. and bundling two games is much worse, because if i want only one game from it, the sale for the other is not valid, because i am going to buy the bundle and throw away the title i don't want to have. that's why bundling is bad.

I don't agree.  I agree that it is annoying listening to people blame sells on bundles on this site but beyond that Im glad that people are getting this titles because they are great games.  

i don't know why people think this bundle is a bad...

I think is a great deal on sony's part. Most people will probably just see a console with three games for only ~50 more euros. They probably dont know how much these games cost....

I just want the Super Slim. No bundle needed.

The 12gb was on sale boxing day at tesco for £129, sick price which i got another now

pezus said: Anyway...

There were no survivors :(

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-12GB-Super-Console/dp/B009DL2TBK/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1356637497&sr=1-1-spell

 

Funny how the HDD Mounting Bracket is the frequently sold article of the 12GB PS3 along with HDDs and the Giotek REAL triggers...

It's as if customers were trying to send a message...

 

Drakes Fate? Need to try that one

JayWood2010 said: theprof00 said: @jay im not saying those games aren't bundled. I'm saying that they weren't bundled together until now. Take the 2008 360 arcade bundled with lego indy and kungfu panda. 2 games. the first one sony fid was 2009 for black friday, and another one in 2011. i expect all the 360 owners are in here becsuse they're interested in buying. There are more 360 owners here than ps3 fanboys (just me) :D   Then we are talking about two entirely different things.  I'm talking about bundles in general and the myth that the reason Nintendo and MSFT games sell well.  All it is is a big excuse.  It could be that they are good games that they sell well O.O  Oh my I would have never thought such a thing!  If sony fans are going to complain about bundles then you might as well say the games i've mentioned above are not worthy of their sells either.

Logically, I would not be able to assume a viewpoint I didn't have, so naturally, you can't take my posts as if I have been saying that 360 doesn't deserve its game sales.

Perhaps you've misinterpreted? What I did say was that was something I've said when it was pointed out how many more million sellers 360 had than ps3. If you took it as "360 only sells games because they're always bundled", I would understand where you're coming from, but let me clarify that in my words, the desired interpretation was "ps3 million sellers are only outnumbered because of bundles". As you can see, if MS bundles 2 games, and Sony bundles 1, then obviously there are going to be more million sellers.

theprof00 said: JayWood2010 said: theprof00 said: @jay im not saying those games aren't bundled. I'm saying that they weren't bundled together until now. Take the 2008 360 arcade bundled with lego indy and kungfu panda. 2 games. the first one sony fid was 2009 for black friday, and another one in 2011. i expect all the 360 owners are in here becsuse they're interested in buying. There are more 360 owners here than ps3 fanboys (just me) :D   Then we are talking about two entirely different things.  I'm talking about bundles in general and the myth that the reason Nintendo and MSFT games sell well.  All it is is a big excuse.  It could be that they are good games that they sell well O.O  Oh my I would have never thought such a thing!  If sony fans are going to complain about bundles then you might as well say the games i've mentioned above are not worthy of their sells either. Logically, I would not be able to assume a viewpoint I didn't have, so naturally, you can't take my posts as if I have been saying that 360 doesn't deserve its game sales. Perhaps you've misinterpreted? What I did say was that was something I've said when it was pointed out how many more million sellers 360 had than ps3. If you took it as "360 only sells games because they're always bundled", I would understand where you're coming from, but let me clarify that in my words, the desired interpretation was "ps3 million sellers are only outnumbered because of bundles". As you can see, if MS bundles 2 games, and Sony bundles 1, then obviously there are going to be more million sellers.

You are the exact reason I pointed out the bundle issue lol  As i said before bundles are not exclusive to nintendo and MSFT so the quicker you realize this the quicker you will see what i mean.