joeorc said:



Vinniegambini said:
But the Vita did get a price cut... Europe - http://n4g.com/news/1111124/playstation-vita-gets-a-significant-price-drop-after-all



which isn't permanent, but still good for a very significant discount. At least until the 31st of december!

so a sale is a price cut now?

Nope because 3DS went down to $139.99(certain places) or $159.99 XL bundle (this last day best buy)

Price drop is when permanently stay so we have to wait next year for both systems

"based on a period of time judged by a price drop." What is this referring to? Try to be more specific I can't follow. Are you talking about black friday week?

As for 3.2m 3DS' sold at 250$ vs 3.6m vitas sold at 250+mem, I was under the impression that the vita was sold at 200$. Also, given the aligned launch data from Kowen we know that the 3DS surpassed the vita, so how did you get the 3.5m for Vita > 3.2m for 3DS, based on what period and paradigm?

yes im not saying its doing better, the main point is some seem to think that just because the systems sales are not as great or as viable as other products in the market there is no way the PSVita can last, yet if that was true Sony is keeping the price the way it is for profit. and someone here thinks because they show a fancy graph that there is no way Sony could slash the price.

for all we know they have decided its not worth it to slash the price because profit is more important at this point, and that may not be in the business plan to allow a price drop at this point in time, yes plans can be changed but would they be really worth it right now? 

OK:

Q: I'm showing you the facts.  Now what is your opinion of the results of the "no price cut"

A:for profit bad for marketshare and Mind share, right now

Q: How do you think it has worked out for them?  How do you think the next 12 months will run?

A: Pretty Much How it is now, low steady sales no real stable spikes

"My opinion is it has worked out badly and it will get worse over thenenxt 12 months.  The 3DS will leave it behind."

So freaking what if the 3DS leaves it behind, if you have not noticed Nintendo has always been the front leadear in Handheld's, oh wait a min not any more iOS and Android are now. In this part of the Market Nintendo and Sony are making the top two well known Handheld systems, And right now more development studios are catering to the smartdevices just as much as the dedicated Game handhelds. So the main Point is at this point Sony has the PSVita as another choice to offer the Gamer to what Nintendo is offering, since pretty much they are the only one. So right now even with such low sales there is new games announced for the PSVita so it must not be alll that dire for the system.

A product can have sales while continuing to fail.

I concur.

I doubt this is permanent. Sony would lose already its non-existing position if it decides to increase the price.

And the 159.99$ and 139.99$ prices were for one week only. Nintendo does not implement these price cuts but retailers to attract consumers. It's like comparing apple to oranges.....

"So Sony outprices themselves with the hardware, and it's something good that they can't cut the mrsp?"

just like the PS3 right?

business plan is what you have when you set up the product, and you pretty much go by that until you have to change it or its too late to do so, do you think Sony could account for Nintendo dropping the price of the Nintendo 3DS down to $169.99 only four months before the PSVita was to release?

Nintendo 3DS hardware vs What Sony put into their Hardware at the Price point both machines were @

i mean really? a Quad core A9 device, with the very same Quad core  GPU that is in the iPad 3 with enhancements with a dedicated 128 MB of ram for the GPu vs outdated Arm 11 with 6 MB of Dedicated GPU ram that is in the 3DS yea, its the exact same thing.

TO expect that is in my opinion quite unreasonable.

my 3DS prediction thread is up anyone interested pls have a look and guess thank you

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=151438&page=1#3

Kowen what are you talking about, what's the lie?
Seriously love people that just say things as if they're fact. Probably some of the best users on this site.

"A product can have sales while continuing to fail."

I mean what's continuing to fail? 2 million per year, 3 million per year? when there is only Two main  Dedicated handheld game systems in this part of the market?

Look at it this way Nintendo even with its fantastic sales get's about 23 million a year, which is very fantastic, but on the same token is no where near the market leader in smartdevices. the point being is this market is no longer the leader anymore, its a very good size market but its main driver of the market is no longer the case even for Nintendo, and that is saying quite a bit. 

the fact of the matter is more 2rd party developers are making game's for smart devices over dedicated Game handhelds now.