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When will PS3 overtake 360 in total sales?

Temp in 2013, Perm in 2014 227 42.67%
 
Permanently in 2014 (Won... 79 14.85%
 
Temp in 2013, and 2014, Perm in 2015 23 4.32%
 
Temp in 2014, Perm in 2015 29 5.45%
 
Permanently in 2015 (Won... 3 0.56%
 
Temp in 2014, and 2015, Perm in 2016 8 1.50%
 
Temp in 2015, Perm in 2016 3 0.56%
 
Some point after 2016, bu... 10 1.88%
 
It won't, sales for both... 27 5.08%
 
It won't, 360 will hold ... 122 22.93%
 
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sales2099 on 12 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

Again, you assume people will care.....at the same time the Next Xbox is beating the PS4 and WiiU is beating them both. You are not addressing this crucial point that people wont care at a certain point, aside from the fanatical minority.



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platformmaster918 on 12 December 2012
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win.  Also my point is PS2 continued to sell well because of its library and the fact that it was still selling.  It's managed to sell over 50 million consoles since 360 came out which means people were still interested in it.  If 360 can't hold people's interest in the same way as PS3 as after next gen comes out that shouldn't be discounted as irrelevant




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sales2099 on 12 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win

360 has more lifetime sales then PS3. They gave up their rule making powers when Sony lost marketshare this gen. :P

But kidding aside, its common sense.....when all 3 next gen systems are out, People just wont care anymore. Only the fanatics will care. Its the way of all consumer products.



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postofficebuddy on 12 December 2012
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm doubtful of 2013-2015. i just don't see 360 declining enough for that to happen. maybe 2015 pending Sony PS3 sales stay 1m a head of 360.

yea by the by. PS3 finished 600k a head of 360 for 2012.


Hmm? Probably going to be more like 1.3-1.5 million.



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Aura7541 on 12 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win


Sorry, I feel like need to jump in this conversation.Sales are sales, regardless if they are sales from 2007 or sales from 2014. In addition, the gaming generations do not have discrete boundaries. This is especially true for this generation and next generation. We're not going to see the kind of leap we saw from last gen to this gen. Thus, the 360 is beating the PS3 in this generation so far, but the PS3 will overtake it somewhere next year.



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sales2099 on 12 December 2012
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win


Sorry, I feel like need to jump in this conversation.Sales are sales, regardless if they are sales from 2007 or sales from 2014. In addition, the gaming generations do not have discrete boundaries. This is especially true for this generation and next generation. We're not going to see the kind of leap we saw from last gen to this gen. Thus, the 360 is beating the PS3 in this generation so far, but the PS3 will overtake it somewhere next year.

Now that I have to disagree with. The gap is now at 2 million and will prob be 2.5 million by years end. PS3 cant make up a 2.5 million gap in one year. Probably in first half of 2014.



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brendude13 on 12 December 2012

I don't think there is a holiday period comeback for the 360 anymore. Looking at recent sales, it has been within 10% of the PS3 since black Friday, and even on black Friday where the 360 usually outsells everything else by a large margin, the difference wasn't that big. When the PS3 does outsell the 360 it'll probably be permanent. There is still quite a gap to close though, so I'm guessing permanent in mid-2014.



platformmaster918 on 12 December 2012
sales2099 said:
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win


Sorry, I feel like need to jump in this conversation.Sales are sales, regardless if they are sales from 2007 or sales from 2014. In addition, the gaming generations do not have discrete boundaries. This is especially true for this generation and next generation. We're not going to see the kind of leap we saw from last gen to this gen. Thus, the 360 is beating the PS3 in this generation so far, but the PS3 will overtake it somewhere next year.

Now that I have to disagree with. The gap is now at 2 million and will prob be 2.5 million by years end. PS3 cant make up a 2.5 million gap in one year. Probably in first half of 2014.

I hope you saw my edit.  A products ability to maintain the interest of consumers even after superior hardware is out should be counted.  If 360 can't keep selling because people lose interest or Microsoft can't support it with good enough games then they still lost.  You're just making fake parameters because you know Playstation consoles have the longest lifespans.




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Shinobi-san on 12 December 2012

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Aura7541 on 12 December 2012
sales2099 said:
Aura7541 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
platformmaster918 said:
sales2099 said:
ironmanDX said:
sales2099 said:
2014 at the earliest.

But as the minority of PS fans crack open the champaigne...the Xbox guys will be cheering on the next gen Xbox beating the PS4

The cycle begins anew :)


I said temp 2013 then hold 2014 but I agree with the rest.

 

The "Next Gen" is now. The WiiU is there, can you see it? It's available world-wide now Sony boys.

I believe the next gen starts when the first one releases aka now. But the Sony guys tend to plead that it truly starts when MS and Sony follow suit. Thats cool, since 360 can easily hold out 1 more year.

I would say next gen has started, but this 7th gen isn't over until every console has been disontinued.  6th gen is still going until PS2 stops being made.  It has sold 150 million, not 100 million which is how everyone will remember down the road.  SNES beat Genesis even though it took awhile to do so and could be called "irrelevant" but that's what the numbers now show.

SNES beat Genesis well before PS1 released, didn't it?

But I still say: Who cares?, when talking about one console passing another when the next gen is allready underway.

The console would have "won" the long run sure, but when those consoles were current and relevant in the eyes of the gamers, who was winning at time will be more remembered IMO.

even if it sells more software too?  I count every console sold in a generation.  By your logic 50 million PS2s don't count.  That's an awful lot of sales to discount.  If a console has lasting value and can continue to sell even when superior hardware is out.  I believe that speaks to its software and the lasting value of the library and that is something it deserves to be recognized for.  Besides 360 got a year head start on PS3 so it's only fair to give PS3 a year after 360 disontinues to catch up or pass before we declare a winner.

By my logic PS2 won regardless and would have won even if by some miracle Xbox or Gamecube outsold it in 2005 or later. Thats my logic.

360 has a 90 million software gap. Bad example. This isnt about being fair. Business isnt fair.

yet you make up special rules to have 360 win


Sorry, I feel like need to jump in this conversation.Sales are sales, regardless if they are sales from 2007 or sales from 2014. In addition, the gaming generations do not have discrete boundaries. This is especially true for this generation and next generation. We're not going to see the kind of leap we saw from last gen to this gen. Thus, the 360 is beating the PS3 in this generation so far, but the PS3 will overtake it somewhere next year.

Now that I have to disagree with. The gap is now at 2 million and will prob be 2.5 million by years end. PS3 cant make up a 2.5 million gap in one year. Probably in first half of 2014.

After adjustments, the gap is now 1.9 million (according to VGC). There's no way the gap will be 2.5 million if the 360 only outsells the PS3 by 20000 like in the week ending at Dec. 1. Also, looking at next year, the difference between the amount of 360 and PS3 exclusives is astonishing. I should also mention the amount of genres the 2013 PS3 exclusives cover. It's quite possible for the PS3 to outsell the 360 in the second half of next year.

I think we should just agree to disagree. We're better off waiting for what will actually happen...