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KylieDog said:
slowmo said:


It only has "value" if you want the games.  I have a good enough disposable income that I can buy the games I want, when I want so I wouldn't have time to play what are frankly older games.  I think the service has more value for a younger audience personally.  I think you misunderstood that the point of the article is to troll Live pure and simple.


Some of the games on PS+ are brand new releases, from the last 2 months for instance Double Dragon Neon and Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit.

Not to mention day 1 discounts on other new releases.  If are the sort of person who buys a lot of stuff then it pretty much pays for itself in discounts alone, nevermind anything else it offers.

Excellent, what discounts did they offer on The Walking Dead?  They only discount to raise awareness of titles, I'm a sucker for big budget games so a lot of the time I'd get no value.  There is the small factor that I love physical media where possible and prices at the high street are usually cheaper than online even with discounts.  I think I see what you're saying though, if you buy a lot of the content they push, then it's a good service if you want to pay for it.  Value wise it really isn't for everyone though and that seems lost on people who love the service and can't see why people don't see value in it (this isn't directed at you btw). 

 



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Turkish said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Turkish said:
foodfather said:
If sony have to dish out free game to get subscribers, then its a loss for them. XBL is fantastic.


HAHAHA

Its a loss for Sony? No! but its a WINNNNNN for gamers. Its YOUR LOSS for missing out on freebies.


They should have used that money to make new games, because now you have a holiday period with not not one great Exclusive game for Vita or PS3... Very sad for a company that is called the Exclusives king..

 

PS3 is a beast next year, its best year probably, Vita launch was bad, but it still has the best launch year Ive ever seen.

 

And not good games? Try LBKarting, PS All Stars, AC3 Liberations, Tales of Graces f, One Piece Pirate Warrios, Virtues Last Reward, LBP Vita, Unfinished Swan, all the downloadable games

 

and.... PS+ VITA!!

Ps3 always has great games....next year..      Those games are almost not worth the time , only enjoyed One Piece because I was a big One piece fan but the rest of them I don't care.   Fuck PS plus and spend that money for Syphon Filther/legend of Dragoon game.



 

This last week has been the largest week in terms of online activity in the history of XBL. So yeah, this article is BS. But that's to be expected (given it's from PSuni)



The title makes an assumption that I don't believe to be accurate.

Point 6 refers to a single giveaway, that Microsoft did for no real reason. Live is not going to fail because MS chose to give away some consoles, when people weren't even expected to get anything anyway.

5) Is a good point, but is so far from a reason for xbox live to fail that I am confused as to why it is in the list.

4) Seems like the point of someone who has decided on their conclusions before thinking through their arguments. I happen to think that I will learn more from the hour of a game the developers chose to show me, than the first hour of the game, which will likely be boring tutorial for the most part.

3) Ok, the title is "Why xbox live is failing", and he talks about something that has been true for many, many years? Xbox gold has cost money for 10, and consoles have offered online multiplayer with no monthly fee since the NES iirc.

2) Ahh yes, a dig at all services that both charge money and have adverts. Cable tv, live sports (or any live event for that matter), brand name clothing, dvds and blu rays. Are they all doomed as well?

1) Yes, another advantage of PS+ over xbox live. But if this were going to kill xbox live, it would have done it years ago.

4 points that are irrelevant, incorrect or unimportant
2 points that are no more true now than they were 4 years ago

XBox live is DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!



Lostplanet22 said:
Turkish said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Turkish said:
foodfather said:
If sony have to dish out free game to get subscribers, then its a loss for them. XBL is fantastic.


HAHAHA

Its a loss for Sony? No! but its a WINNNNNN for gamers. Its YOUR LOSS for missing out on freebies.


They should have used that money to make new games, because now you have a holiday period with not not one great Exclusive game for Vita or PS3... Very sad for a company that is called the Exclusives king..

 

PS3 is a beast next year, its best year probably, Vita launch was bad, but it still has the best launch year Ive ever seen.

 

And not good games? Try LBKarting, PS All Stars, AC3 Liberations, Tales of Graces f, One Piece Pirate Warrios, Virtues Last Reward, LBP Vita, Unfinished Swan, all the downloadable games

 

and.... PS+ VITA!!

Ps3 always has great games....next year..      Those games are almost not worth the time , only enjoyed One Piece because I was a big One piece fan but the rest of them I don't care.   Fuck PS plus and spend that money for Syphon Filther/legend of Dragoon game.

I guess they're not worth your time if you don't like to play various types of games. They're great games. Virtues Last Reward is one of the best games of this year aswel as Persona 4 Golden. The highest rated game of this year LOOL.

Lets start a kickstarter for Legend of Dragoon 2



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Lostplanet22 said:
Argh_College said:
KylieDog said:
From a consumer perspective, LIVE is failing pretty hard.

i agree, they should give some free games every 2 months like Ps Plus.

i dont understand why they dont.

Because they gave games like Happy wars and not many cared. 

Lol that games was not bad but come on



Those reasons are quite picky.

6) People who get a (limited) console for free are surely happy about it. Either they love it or sell it. Who are you to talk bad about free stuff?

5) Automated updates would totally raise my power costs because the console is always on stand-by which eats a lot, no thanks.

4) Game Trials are psycho-stuff. When you can play a game for 1 hour and haven't stopped by then, you will buy it. Demos are not that way and nowadays offer like the first chapter, mission or race. Which is enough to understand and experience the core game.

3) Old discussion, old pro and contra points. The day PSN works as well as LIVE I will gladly switch (no I won't because I still don't like the controller). But until then I will keep downloading crazily huge updates that then have to be installed and after an hour of waiting I can go online just to get kicked off a few minutes later for no reason (well, free service apparently).

2) Lamest point ever to me. The whole internet is like "omg ads on my console" while the whole world is full of ads, you don't even notice (but on your console you do, right). I don't even recognize those ads or see them as ads. It's information tiles about new releases and deals. I'm not interested in whatever the tile is showing? No need to recognize it until it changes. Also the dashboard is senseless. I can set the console to start a game immediately when booting and access everything through the in-game dashboard without any ads and it's even quicker.

1) Old discussion, old pro and contra points. Still don't like the controller.

Those are my picky reasons then.



Frank_kc said:
Many of MS fans misunderstood the article. I can agree 100% that is not failing from a MS view as a company because of tons of cash coming out of it.

However, the article is about the value you get out of PS+ compared to Live. And I can ensure you that the value you get from PS+ as a customer is much more what you get out of Live.

Next topic please.


No people understand the article just fine. If its intention is to compare the value of a service like PS+ to the value of a completely different service like XBL Gold then we're right to mock it and disregard it. One fee is an entryway into the best online service around and all the features it includes. The other is like a Sam's Club card, or a grocery store membership card. It has nothing to do with online play or services, it exists solely for discounts and "value". And just like the entrance fee for XBL Gold, the "value" with PS+ will vary from person to person.

The comparison should be between XBL and PSN. But XBL wins easily so...



Turkish said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Turkish said:
foodfather said:
If sony have to dish out free game to get subscribers, then its a loss for them. XBL is fantastic.


HAHAHA

Its a loss for Sony? No! but its a WINNNNNN for gamers. Its YOUR LOSS for missing out on freebies.


They should have used that money to make new games, because now you have a holiday period with not not one great Exclusive game for Vita or PS3... Very sad for a company that is called the Exclusives king..

 

PS3 is a beast next year, its best year probably, Vita launch was bad, but it still has the best launch year Ive ever seen.

 

And not good games? Try LBKarting, PS All Stars, AC3 Liberations, Tales of Graces f, One Piece Pirate Warrios, Virtues Last Reward, LBP Vita, Unfinished Swan, all the downloadable games

 

and.... PS+ VITA!!

some of those shovleware have low metacrtic scores

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