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ethomaz said:
Chris Hu said:
You do realize that they have different models of Galaxy phones and not even close to 90% of those 56.9 million phones have to be Galaxy phones in oder to be more then 26.9 million.   Also I just read an article that said that the Galaxy S3 is the best selling smart phone in the UK for the last six month.  Or how about this article on Forbes it clearly shows that the Galaxy is beating the iPhone.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/07/29/samsungs-galaxy-beats-iphone-idc-report-says/

Again... all Galaxy models together accounts around 40% of Samsung smartphone sales... you said Galaxy sold 50 million last quarter (that 90%) and that's number is not true. The UK report is from September... iPhone 5 was launched in 21st... 10 days in the market vs. 30 days for Galaxy S3... and the research didn't account SIM-free phones.

If it make you happy you can keep on believing that the iPhone is still the best selling smart phone in the world but pretty much all news/sales articles say otherwise.  Also even if it where the case Samsung still utterly destoys Apple in total cell phone sales.



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pezus said:

"I find the Android OS more easily maneuverable than iOS, for basic reasons such as the presence of a pull down menu listing your apps in use, and the presence of a back button on the phone instead of having to hunt for an arrow within each app to return to the previous screen. Other little things bother me about iOS 6, such as the more difficult steps you must take to sign out of some apps that are operating in the background. " - Yes, this is a quote I stole that I agree with.

Also, that battery comment is blatantly false. My brother has an iPhone 5 and has to charge it each day, because it doesn't last two days. Also basically all tests have shown that the comparable phone Galaxy S3's battery life greatly outshines the iPhone 5's. I mean, it's beaten easily by many of the biggest Android phones.

No matter the evidence he will repeat the same things over and over. He claims the usage is simpler lol, it is completely opposite. The skeumorphic design in ios makes everything difficult the navigate and the lack of the back button is a nightmare. Without jailbreaking it is a pain in the ass to change the settings lol, and yet it is simpler to use?

Itunes listed as a plus is simply mind-blowing.



It seems that this tidbit of information is taken lightly by some of the comments, not all.

This is important, because in the next 3 years, this battle between apple and android will come to heads.

This was Apple's market, they introduced the next step to cell phones.  Look back 5 years ago and you can see a major shift in design and overall marketing for phones. 

This was Apple's huberus.  If you wanted Apple OS, you have to get an apple phone.  If you want android, you have samsung, Motorola, Nokia, HTC, etc.  The Iphone 5 will become stale in another 6 months and we'll see another Iphone 5 v2.0. 

This is going to be another Apple and Microsoft all over again.



Ouroboros24 said:

It seems that this tidbit of information is taken lightly by some of the comments, not all.

This is important, because in the next 3 years, this battle between apple and android will come to heads.

This was Apple's market, they introduced the next step to cell phones.  Look back 5 years ago and you can see a major shift in design and overall marketing for phones. 

This was Apple's huberus.  If you wanted Apple OS, you have to get an apple phone.  If you want android, you have samsung, Motorola, Nokia, HTC, etc.  The Iphone 5 will become stale in another 6 months and we'll see another Iphone 5 v2.0. 

This is going to be another Apple and Microsoft all over again.

What you are not taking into consideration is that Nokia and HTC are moving fully towards WP8 and I wonder how long it will be before Samsung and Sony move a little that way as well.

I do agree that quite a lot will change in the next 3 years, but I'm not too sure what will happen.



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Chris Hu said:
the2real4mafol said:
Even if Android was just Samsung, Android would still sell better than iOS


The Samsung Galaxy is the best selling smart phone it pretty much destroys the Iphone in sales.


Not even remotely true. The Galaxy S3 sold 30 million units in a little over 5 months.

A supply-constrained iPhone 5 sold five million units on its launch weekend. 




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This doesn't bode too well for W8 phones. Even with Nokia deal some were praising not too long ago, the Windows phone marketshare dropped YOY. I'm sure it can claim some of its marketshare back, but I dont think we'll see it at 10% like some were predicting anytime sooon, if at all.

Also, Android is awesome. I know some people say its the only OS that doesn't sell phones because of its OS, for whatever poor excuse they give, but they are dead wrong. I know me and my. Friends have been using Android phones for years, and will continue to do so. And I know there are many more out there like us. Android, like Apple/iOS, has become one of those "cool" OSs to use. Its also very functional to boot.



Chris Hu said:

If it make you happy you can keep on believing that the iPhone is still the best selling smart phone in the world but pretty much all news/sales articles say otherwise.  Also even if it where the case Samsung still utterly destoys Apple in total cell phone sales.

Sorry dude but iPhone sells more than all Galaxy together... that's a fact... Galaxy sold more in August and September becuase the iPhone sales slowdown waiting iPhone 5 release and the lauch have supply issues.

All Galaxy together don't have over 50 million lifetime sales... iPhone have just in the last year over 100 million.



ethomaz said:

Chris Hu said:

If it make you happy you can keep on believing that the iPhone is still the best selling smart phone in the world but pretty much all news/sales articles say otherwise.  Also even if it where the case Samsung still utterly destoys Apple in total cell phone sales.

Sorry dude but iPhone sells more than all Galaxy together... that's a fact... Galaxy sold more in August and September becuase the iPhone sales slowdown waiting iPhone 5 release and the lauch have supply issues.

All Galaxy together don't have over 50 million lifetime sales... iPhone have just in the last year over 100 million.

You are flat out lying and it is pathetic. Seriously if you don't have a problem with mathematics you can calculate this right?

30 million S3's : http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3593096/samsung-galaxy-s-III-30-million-sales

28 million S2's, 24 million S's: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/samsung-sells-more-than-28-million-galaxy-s2-smartphones/

This was six months ago.

10 million Note: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/16/3246378/samsung-galaxy-note-sales-10-million-worldwide

This was in August.

There are lots of variations, like i9001 Galaxy S plus  etc. which are basically the same phone for different carriers, markets etc. 

By that logic I can safely say that XBOX 360 is at 70 million while PS3 is only 30 million. PS3 is dead, everybody is buying 360 etc. Can't bother.



So much ignorance in this thread.

Anyway, this isn't that surprising. The advantage of Android is that it is open and scalable over a wide range of devices. Apple only make a few devices and try to optimise for those devices but even then it doesn't always work out that well on some of the older devices if my partners iPhone4 is anything to go by. Either way, the Android market share will continue to grow. However, Windows Phone 8 will be one to look out for in the future especially if Nokia can succeed with the Lumia 920.



rocketpig said:
Chris Hu said:
the2real4mafol said:
Even if Android was just Samsung, Android would still sell better than iOS


The Samsung Galaxy is the best selling smart phone it pretty much destroys the Iphone in sales.


Not even remotely true. The Galaxy S3 sold 30 million units in a little over 5 months.

A supply-constrained iPhone 5 sold five million units on its launch weekend. 

Check my earlier post but if it makes you and ethomaz happy to believe that the iPhone is still the best selling smart phone then go ahead but reality says otherwise.