Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Increasing Evidence That Nintendo is Not Serious About the Hardcore Gamers

I am not really sure what you are talking about when you say "hardcore gamers" given these criticisms. Given what the Wii U offers with asymmetrical gaming options, Miiverse integration, retaining of motion control options, and a new interface for gaming, and a jump to HD graphics, I would say Nintendo is supporting their "hardcore" base extremely well. The only times when they haven't done the best job is with the N64 and GameCube. On all other major systems (handhelds included) they have done an outstanding job.

If you are talking the type of "hardcore gamer" that live on playing shooter games 12 hours a day, don't work, and don't really have a social life - then I think Nintendo has opened up options for them given the new controller interface abilities - such as interactive stat tracking on the bottom screen while the action occurs on the top screen; but whether you can tear these guys out of their computer seats is another question. I don't think it is in the best interest of Nintendo's fanbase to focus on these gamers; and as Nintendo, their fanbase is the largest videogame related fanbase in the video gaming industry.

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bananaking21 said:
every time i hear "hardcore gamer" i think of porn.

I agree, it is kind of a ridiculous term that is funny how widely used it is. Like many people who take part in our hobby are so far removed from typical social discourse that they don't realize what the common meaning of "hardcore" actually is.

I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

if they cared about the hardcore gamers they wouldn't make any money

there is increasing evidence that video game journalists(journalists LOL) are fanboy hacks who do not have an ounce of integrity.

noname2200 said:

Wii U clearly isn't a hardcore console. I mean, in order to play games on it you have to actually purchase the games. What the fuck? And you have to use controllers to interact with the peice of shit; why the fuck doesn't it just read my mind like a real console? And the launch lineup sucks a whole bag of dicks. It doesn't even have a mature Nintendo game, like this one.


Are we making up obscenities now?


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That is not big deal

let me fix it:

Increasing Evidence That Nintendo is ignoring fake terms such as hardcore gamers because they offer a 2d style mario that 20 years ago would be considered hardcore but for whatever stupid reason not today.

1.Region lock has nothing to do with so called hardcore it has something to do with profit. And its not about the most loyal customers its about the customers that care for games that dont make it to their country and customers that understand japanese etc.

2. . "The hardcore gamer does enjoy convenience, but certainly doesn’t rate it above physics, graphics, and overall performance and gameplay" Is your opinion.

I consider myself a "hardcore" gamer (if such a thing even exists) And for me Graphics are a means of communicating information and ideas. There is far more important stuff than graphics and especially physics. And as long as the graphics are sufficient im okay with it.
Art style > polygons on screen.
A small example for this is Minecraft it was made by no "artist" and looks meh. There is texture mods out there (even ones with same teture resolution) that make it look much better without increasing polygons or anything.

Nintendo didn't show SUPER AWESOME WiiU games so he third party has a chance. If Nintendo would make 3d Mario or Zelda a launch title people would just go and buy those. Letting the third party handle the launch on their own would end in a 3DS style launch disaster. Its the best of both worlds.

3. "Very little is known about.... the Wii U .... online infrastructure" "feeling" enough said.

The WiiU has small internal storage for SAVEGAMES and Nintendo thinks its customers are actually smart enough to use harddrives. When they decide to download games.

I personally never ever wanted my WiiU to have a harddrive that was bought lets say in april then installed into the WiiU in september and then sold to me in November for the price the harddrive was sold to Nintendo in april.
. Especially since I have a ton of external harddrives I dunno all my HDDS together are like 12TB? Btw interal flash storage =/= HARDDRIVES

Again the flash memory was never intended as dowload directory for 20gb games or so its for savegames and small eshop games.

So when you are sitting in English classes it just makes sense that the "math" you see does not add up because its actually words.


You know what makes no sense compared to the sense the WiiU internal flash size makes? The 12gb PS3. I dunno if the console still has such a slow drive but alot of games force you to install. The WiiU games wont force you to install since the drive is twice the speed so the PS3 streaming issues are not there.

Side note:
Btw USB2.0 which the WiiU has is around 33MB/s or +50% faster than the WiiU drive or 300% faster than the PS3 drive. Even the "experts" at IGN doubted the WiiU would be able to play games from external harddrives LOOL.

So all those people that say WiiU wont be able to play games from external HDDs because USB2.0 is slow are unsmart ;) IT wont suffer from the same problem the PS3 did.
People just dont educate themselves enough ;)

fordy said:
Sensei said:

 Without achievements I have no reason to play anything on Wii U.

If achievements are all that you play games for, then you're playing games for all the wrong reasons...

You play games for entertainment.  If achievements give you more entertainment value then why is that wrong?  I could care less about achievements but telling someone there is something wrong for playing games for them is ridiculous.  

spurgeonryan said:
I will admit that Region locking their systems is total bullshit! Do they make any's less money if someone imports a game? Pirates will find a way. Annoying your bread and butter is a Cardinal sin.


The local retailers lose out on sales and jobs are lost. Until game prices become comparible in all regios of the globe I think region locking will exist. I Know for example here in Austrai DVD players must be region free or allow a function to be. However BluRay players atm are locked. I complained about it to our consumers office and they basically told me the answer I jsut wrote.

However I kind of agree with you. So perhaps games that are not released in multi regions can be region free. That way genuine buyers who want a Japanese game, as opposed to cheap game will be able to import and play. This way local retail industry is still protected.



Luckily enough third parties are there provide for the core audience at launch. Fans whine every gen, but once Mario Kart and Smash Bros come out they won't complain for the rest of the generation.