| Ji99saw said:
You have already admitted to not writing the complete truth in your last post and are trying to mask it under the guise of a "Speculative Statement" even though you were writing it as complete fact and gave no hint that you were speculating, anything you say now is completely irrelevant because you already ruined your credibility |
No, I admitted that my memory of the state of Pikmin 3 at E3 2011 was not entirely correct, not that I didn't tell the truth ... There is a substantial difference.
As for the indication of speculation, the fact that it was a vague statement should have been indication enough. Compare the following two statements:
"Microsoft will release the XBox 720 sometime in the next 12 to 24 months and it will priced in the $400 to $500 range"
and
"Microsoft will release the XBox 720 on November 17th 2013 and it will retail for $399.95"
Is there indication that someone is speculating in one, and someone is making a statement of fact in the other?
Now, look at the statement I made:
"18 to 24 months to improve visuals of a nearly completed game will typically result in a better looking game than 12 to 18 months to develop a game from scratch from the ground up ..."
The statement is vague, and doesn't make any direct claims on either Kameo or Pikmin. Had I said something along the lines of:
"Kameo began development for the Gamecube and was transferred to the XBox when Microsoft bought Rare. At E3 2004 Kameo was shown in a near complete state by Microsoft and soon after disappeared from their release schedule. This was because Microsoft had already transferred development of Kameo to the XBox 360 prior to E3 and they were only displaying its previous build because they didn't want to reveal that their next generation plaform was already in development"
"While Pikmin had been developed for years in Nintendo, it was mostly done by a small development team focused on creating new gameplay concepts using the Pikmin IP. In the middle of 2010 these gameplay concepts began being developed into an actual game that was being produced for the Wii and this game was going to be demoed for the Wii at E3. Shortly before E3 Miyamoto decided that Pikmin would be moved to the Wii U, plans to demo it at E3 were scrapped, and when they talked about it at E3 his discussion was entirely on the intention to release Pikmin to the Wii U. Soon after E3 Pikmin began development for the Wii U"
In both cases they take the limited information about the development of both games, but in one case the information is presented with the same uncertainty of the information we know; while in the other case the information is presented as being certain with details no one could know being added to add weight to the statement.
If you really see the intentions of vague statements to be the presentation of facts I don't know what to tell you ...
Outside of this thread I have never heard anyone claim that a statement made that doesn't have solid statements could be considered a fact. Hypothetically speaking, if someone says "The Wii U is expensive relative to the hardware you're getting" they may be making a solid statement that may (or may not be) the result of bias and assumptions they're not making any statements of facts; in contrast, if they're say "The Wii U is overpriced because the manufacturing cost is only $200" they're making a statement of fact.
If someone is making a statement of opinion, or a speculative statement they can not be seen a lying; in contrast if they're making a false statement of a fact they can be considered lying.
Edit: And this is a distinction you should understand because lawsuits can be expensive, claiming someone is a lier in an unjustified way can get you sued and suing someone for defamation of character because you believe they lied about you can cost you money if you don't know the difference between a lie, speculation, exaggeration, and opinion.
