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DanneSandin on 16 September 2012

brendude13 said:
1. Keep on playing "keep away" with multiplatform games.
2. Have a significant increase in power over the Wii U.

But can they - and especially Sony - afford a significant increase of power over the WiiU? Is it possible to have another PS360 >>>>>>>>>>>Wii situation?

 
3. Launch at $399 or less.
4. Have system sellers like Gran Turismo 6 and Halo 5 available in the launch window.

Halo5 at launch is very unlikely...
5. Have new exclusive IPs available in the launch window.
6. Steal Nintendo's casual market when their guard is down (specifically Microsoft with Kinect).

Kinect never was as popular as Wiimotes... And sold relatively few games...
7. Make the PS3 and Xbox 360 more appealing than ever in the 1 or 2 years where the Wii U will get a head start.
8. Advertise, advertise, ADVERTISE!
9. Multimedia capabilities including apps and a built in Blu-Ray player.
10.At least one of them must have a "hook", like the Wii's remote and the Wii U's tablet.





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UltimateUnknown on 16 September 2012
DanneSandin said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Just release consoles that are better than the Wii U. MS and Sony already have all the 3rd party and hardcore gamer support, so they just need get the pricing right. Oh and while they are waiting to release the bigger and better consoles, put some price cuts on the PS360 around the time Wii U releases.

And how do they do that? What does "better consoles" mean in this context?

Firstly better technical specs, i.e. better graphics and physics. But not just that, a console that is more feature rich than the Wii U. If MS can release Kinect 2.0 which can read body motion without any lag unlike the current kinect, and pack it into the box, then developers would have extra tools to play with just like how the Wii U has the tablet. Plus they already have an established online service which is very robust, so any improvements will only be positive (still have to see if Miiverse will be able to compete with current XBL and PSN). Sony on the other hand just needs to make sure that their console is buyable day one.



 

HappySqurriel on 16 September 2012
F0X said:
radishhead said:
RolStoppable said:
Convince third parties to ignore the Wii U.

Do they need convincing?

Apparently Ubisoft and Activision do, at the least.


With Nintendo's recent conference I was shocked by how much support Ubisoft was giving Nintendo compared to EA ... I could be wrong but I get the feeling that Ubisoft's management is finally starting to see that the weakness of other third party publishers on Nintendo platforms is a huge opportunity for them.



green_sky on 16 September 2012
FrancisNobleman said:
Corey said:
Release a console with high quality games and amazing graphics for a reasonable price.

That's what microsoft did with the X360. And take a look at it's sales against the Wii.

X360 has done amazing for Microsoft. It turned the xbox division profitable. They now have a very dedicated core fanbase and a very high attach rate for software. Third party publishers love 360 more than any other console at the moment. So it has done exceedingly well. 



osed125 on 16 September 2012

brendude13 said:
2. Have a significant increase in power over the Wii U.
3. Launch at $399 or less.

Unless both companies take big losses I don't see how they can make a powerful system (compared to the PS3, 360 and the upcoming Wii U) at that price, MS can probably do it but Sony is in no position to do so.

4. Have system sellers like Gran Turismo 6 and Halo 5 available in the launch window.

Very unlikely about Halo 5 considering Halo 4 will be released this year. Gran Turismo 6 is a big possibility though.

5. Have new exclusive IPs available in the launch window.

Agreed.

6. Steal Nintendo's casual market when their guard is down (specifically Microsoft with Kinect).

This will be really hard, and imo the biggest factor to that will be the price of the system.

9. Multimedia capabilities including apps and a built in Blu-Ray player.

As long as they don't go crazy like Sony with the Blu-Ray which made the PS3 way too expensive at launch.


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brendude13 on 16 September 2012
DanneSandin said:

brendude13 said:
2. Have a significant increase in power over the Wii U.

But can they - and especially Sony - afford a significant increase of power over the WiiU? Is it possible to have another PS360 >>>>>>>>>>>Wii situation?

It won't be as big of a gap as this generation, but give it a year or two and they definitely will be able to release a console more powerful than the Wii U for £399.

4. Have system sellers like Gran Turismo 6 and Halo 5 available in the launch window.

Halo5 at launch is very unlikely...

Possibly, I would say Gran Turismo 6 is even more unlikely. I bet both games are currently in development and planning now and they'll probably have dev kits very soon too. If they pull their finger out they can have a game ready intwo years.

6. Steal Nintendo's casual market when their guard is down (specifically Microsoft with Kinect).

Kinect never was as popular as Wiimotes... And sold relatively few games...

 That's because Wiimotes came with the console. For a peripheral, Kinect has sold incredibly well. If Kinect comes with the console as standard it could be a very useful tool and would be very appealing to the casual market.







DanneSandin on 16 September 2012
UltimateUnknown said:
DanneSandin said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Just release consoles that are better than the Wii U. MS and Sony already have all the 3rd party and hardcore gamer support, so they just need get the pricing right. Oh and while they are waiting to release the bigger and better consoles, put some price cuts on the PS360 around the time Wii U releases.

And how do they do that? What does "better consoles" mean in this context?

Firstly better technical specs, i.e. better graphics and physics. But not just that, a console that is more feature rich than the Wii U. If MS can release Kinect 2.0 which can read body motion without any lag unlike the current kinect, and pack it into the box, then developers would have extra tools to play with just like how the Wii U has the tablet. Plus they already have an established online service which is very robust, so any improvements will only be positive (still have to see if Miiverse will be able to compete with current XBL and PSN). Sony on the other hand just needs to make sure that their console is buyable day one.

Yeah, I'm sure WiiU will be the weakest next gen, but not as weak as Wii was this gen. But this will mean WIiU will get way better ports than Wii ever got. And I'm not totally sure about Kinect2 either... It sold very well indeed, but is it something that can push sales for the system? I don't know - perhaps. It did extend the 360's life span. And regarding their online serices; if they don't improve Nintendo will get a head, for sure.

And regarding your Sony comment; I don't think I quite get it... Are you litteraly meaning all Sony needs to do is release PS4? Cuz that didn't work out too good for PS3...



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DanneSandin on 16 September 2012
brendude13 said:
DanneSandin said:

brendude13 said:
2. Have a significant increase in power over the Wii U.

But can they - and especially Sony - afford a significant increase of power over the WiiU? Is it possible to have another PS360 >>>>>>>>>>>Wii situation?

It won't be as big of a gap as this generation, but give it a year or two and they definitely will be able to release a console more powerful than the Wii U for £399.

4. Have system sellers like Gran Turismo 6 and Halo 5 available in the launch window.

Halo5 at launch is very unlikely...

Possibly, I would say Gran Turismo 6 is even more unlikely. I bet both games are currently in development and planning now and they'll probably have dev kits very soon too. If they pull their finger out they can have a game ready intwo years.

6. Steal Nintendo's casual market when their guard is down (specifically Microsoft with Kinect).

Kinect never was as popular as Wiimotes... And sold relatively few games...

 That's because Wiimotes came with the console. For a peripheral, Kinect has sold incredibly well. If Kinect comes with the console as standard it could be a very useful tool and would be very appealing to the casual market.





Yeah, releasing a more powerful console don't neccesarily mean taking the lead (PS1 and PS2 are prime examples of that; they stayed way a head despite being the weaker machine).

Having their biggest selling IP's ready after the console's been out for a year already... That's just not good =)

I'm not totally sold on Kinect, and I doubt I'll get the 720 for Kinect2 - but it's a nice addition I guess... But will it push lots and lots of systems? Dunno... And Sony doesn't have anything like that at all; Move just... failed... Hard.



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the_dengle on 16 September 2012

Wii U's sales will be unf*ckable.



Zappykins on 16 September 2012

If Microsoft really starts promoting their 'Smart Glass' I could see it really harming WiiU sales. People would be happy to use their current HD pad/tablet and not have to buy a new console.

Plus, I think should have 'workout' bundles - sort of like the P90X/Insanity challenges. People would buy an XKinect just for a good workout system - captures more casuals. They might buy a game, another gamer is added to the world.

Sony, the super slim would be a good thing - plus commercials with the Vita being used with the PS3 could really confuse people so they don't see what is special about WiiU.

Making the WiiU seem not unique and special would do the most damage.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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