I don't know why everyone says that the GPU will be maxed by the 1080p resolution. What if the game is not so graphically intensive, or it is really well optimized?
Also, if the GPU is at least a Radeon 4850, it has at least 1000 GFLOPS of processing power. That's not too shabby.
| Soleron said: It means they plan to open up the GPU so games can run physics or computational code on it? It's something the new GPU supports that the Wii GPU did not. But I don't see it happening because the GPU will be maxed out with rendering 1080p. It's more of a marketing thing than any real information. |
They could also use it for apps further down the line though. I doubt that extra 1Gb of RAM is going to be solely reserved for the OS. We may get things like video editing apps (e.g. recording a multiplayer match and editing stuff using the tablet) that use the GPU a bit more.
A "normal" GPU is kind of a dumb CPU that is made for "drawing pictures". It is very dumb but very fast in doing so. Some time ago, somebody came up with the idea of adding a few CPU-like things so that a "dumb GPU" turns into a "not so dumb GPU" that can do some additional processing very fast. In doing other stuff, the GPGPU loses some on the graphics processing obviously.
What does it mean for you?
Basically, it means:
If you are a gamer that looks for the "best picture" a GPGPU is a really dumb idea, since you lose in graphics performance when your GPU starts doing "other stuff". If you are not a gamer, then a GPGPU is a clever idea to increase the processing power of your CPU.
If you are a (future) WiiU owner, all bets are open. Most likely, the GPGPU is a dumb idea because the GPU will be taxed out with 1080p 60Hz (and 1-2 tabled graphics). So your GPGPU turns into a simple marketing ploy, it promises something it will sinply not deliver (there is a reason NVIdia GPUs beat AMD GPUs handily, they are less GPGPU than their counterparts, so they can deliver more).
Unfortunately marketing hype is fully in the GPGPU camp, and the next PS4 is rumoured to fall into the same trap. We seem to be heading towards some APU/GPGPU (crap) combination instead of a powerful cell+/powerful GPU combo.
| drkohler said: A "normal" GPU is kind of a dumb CPU that is made for "drawing pictures". It is very dumb but very fast in doing so. Some time ago, somebody came up with the idea of adding a few CPU-like things so that a "dumb GPU" turns into a "not so dumb GPU" that can do some additional processing very fast. In doing other stuff, the GPGPU loses some on the graphics processing obviously. What does it mean for you? Basically, it means: If you are a gamer that looks for the "best picture" a GPGPU is a really dumb idea, since you lose in graphics performance when your GPU starts doing "other stuff". If you are not a gamer, then a GPGPU is a clever idea to increase the processing power of your CPU. If you are a (future) WiiU owner, all bets are open. Most likely, the GPGPU is a dumb idea because the GPU will be taxed out with 1080p 60Hz (and 1-2 tabled graphics). So your GPGPU turns into a simple marketing ploy, it promises something it will sinply not deliver (there is a reason NVIdia GPUs beat AMD GPUs handily, they are less GPGPU than their counterparts, so they can deliver more). Unfortunately marketing hype is fully in the GPGPU camp, and the next PS4 is rumoured to fall into the same trap. We seem to be heading towards some APU/GPGPU (crap) combination instead of a powerful cell+/powerful GPU combo. |
Up to this generation of graphics cards, untrue. This generation is debatable, but nVidia is the company that has pushed more the GPGPU camp. Cuda and Tesla have done much more to the GPGPU awareness than any initiative AMD has done. Now AMD wants to use the GPGPU capabilities of the integrated graphics on their APUs to try to recover from the disaster that Bulldozer cores have been, but nVidia is the company that still pushes more in this camp.
*phew*
I thought I was the only one.
My prediction threads:
Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)
PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)
Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right
I tried to explain it in my head... But then I got sidetrack. :P
I don't know either.
Scoobes said:
They could also use it for apps further down the line though. I doubt that extra 1Gb of RAM is going to be solely reserved for the OS. We may get things like video editing apps (e.g. recording a multiplayer match and editing stuff using the tablet) that use the GPU a bit more. |
If this was MS/Sony I'd agree. But Nintendo can't even be bothered to code an online system.
| drkohler said: If you are a gamer that looks for the "best picture" a GPGPU is a really dumb idea, since you lose in graphics performance when your GPU starts doing "other stuff". If you are not a gamer, then a GPGPU is a clever idea to increase the processing power of your CPU. If you are a (future) WiiU owner, all bets are open. Most likely, the GPGPU is a dumb idea because the GPU will be taxed out with 1080p 60Hz (and 1-2 tabled graphics). So your GPGPU turns into a simple marketing ploy, it promises something it will sinply not deliver (there is a reason NVIdia GPUs beat AMD GPUs handily, they are less GPGPU than their counterparts, so they can deliver more). Unfortunately marketing hype is fully in the GPGPU camp, and the next PS4 is rumoured to fall into the same trap. We seem to be heading towards some APU/GPGPU (crap) combination instead of a powerful cell+/powerful GPU combo. |
All modern GPU architectures are general purpose now. If anything Nvidia has more GPGPU features.
You seem confused about what APU/Cell actually did.
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