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spurgeonryan said:
man-bear-pig said:
spurgeonryan said:


He is not a person. He is God. He can love when dead, alive, or even while eating Taco bell burritos!


Who says that he's god though? For all we know he could be some crazy guy on crystal meth who told everyone he was the son of god...


I did not say he was god, I said he was thee GOD. Even more powerful than Matt Smith....on the Blue ish!


Ok, now you've gotta be bullshittin' me. NO-ONE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN MATT SMITH DAMMNITTT!!!



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God bless you brother in Christ! All of the haters and atheists will face God along with us.

Accept God's love and gift of eternal happiness and life by accepting His son, Jesus Christ, and Christ's great sacrifice for us. Jesus was tortured, killed, and brought back from the dead to defeat death for us and to save all that would accept Him and these realities! We all die once, but the second death is the real death. God invites you to accept Jesus and His painful sacrifice, and the reality of His raising from the dead for us all, so that our souls will be saved and our sins will be forgiven.

Why do so many of you reject this gift of love? God is no fantasy! I have personally been witness of His answering of my prayers. Even as so many hate and don't believe, God loves us. Jesus loves us. Seek and you will find! God will forgive you if you accept the Gospel message and repent and ask for forgiveness. Read the Gospel of John in the Bible. It is a good place to start. Pray in Jesus' name when you pray. God will forgive terrible sins if you will just turn to his loving arms. He wants the sinners to turn to Him! It makes Him happy! Accept His great gift while there is still time. We are in the final generation. God bless you all!



Of course he does! He is just waiting for you to turn to Him and away from sins.



Of course he does! He is just waiting for you to turn to Him and away from sins.



Baron said:
Player1x3 said:
Baron said:
What I always fail to understand is why religious people feel the need to bother non religious people with their believes.



LOL. Whatever. I didn't come here to debate and I don't feel oppressed by a bunch of morons. If you want to believe in a magical sky pixie than that's your problem, not mine.





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Hey, I need to be loved in the butt, can Jesus do that for me? Runa's needing some sensual sodomy.



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richardhutnik said:
DaRev said:
richardhutnik said:
DaRev said:
pezus said:
DaRev said:

OK, but if that is your final answer, sorry to tell you this, but I think you are going to hell. Because the 'maker', as I know him, said so and I can show you where he said so.

Now, what you can do to refute that, is prove to me why you think you're not going to hell or that there is no hell - did the stars and atoms you believe in tell you this? if so, show me where, did they write it down?  

Jesus...you do know I don't care at all what Christians think will happen to me? Why are Christians correct and not everyone else? Take it from the Dude:

Ok, well you're still going to hell, but you don't have to. The fact of the matter is that Christians nor the Maker wants you to go to hell. See Hell is kind of like those atoms you claim to believe in. You ever seen an atom? But you believe in them right? Someone who knows sbout atoms told you about them, right? and it sounded sensible right? Well, Hell, is kind of like an atom, lol, not because you don't see, doesn't make it any less real.

People like you who don't belive there is a hell, are like people who don't believe in atoms lol.

So, are you a person who believes in unconditional eternal security?  You know, "Once saved, always saved"?   Just curious, because I say individuals who hold that view are individuals who choose to be Calvinists.

My take on the whole, is if people knew how easy it is to be tricked and duped into believing things, they wouldn't be as gung-ho or have hubris in think what they believe is correct.

I don't think I'm a Calvinist, I believe you can loose your salvation just as much as you can gain it (but, I'm still studying the matter).

How do you know if something is 'correct' or not? (It's a bit of a trick question so answer carefully)

I figured I would ask this, because there are individuals who end up believing they can fall away.  Others believe in unconditional eternal security.  However, when I hear people talk about "losing their salvation" I have to wonder where they would happen to misplace it.  Calvinists end up believing people are preordained and the elected, and the elect never fallaway.

As far as knowing something is correct, that is the rabbit hole that runs REALLY deep and leads into a reason why asking God for signs is an absurd proposition, that really doesn't get anywhere.  For me, a big question would be: What would be the expected manifestations of someone who is a real Christian, and how can you tell them apart from those who aren't?  I ask: Do real Christians glow in the dark?  Understand that second meaning.  I also have to ponder, exactly WHAT would one expect to have as an outcome from connecting with God in a real way.  Are Christians to be happy for no reason, for example?  Look at the book of Job where Satan asks God if Job does good for no reason.  That is a trap.  I see it as a trap question fitting into Proverbs where there is a prayer which asks God to have enough to not steal, but not so much as to forget God.  The short of it, the middle path between sin and Godlessness.  And yes, that may be a possibility.

Pardon my ramblings here.  These are just tough issues I deal with in my own life.  I also think the right answer would end up answering the questions of signs.


Yes, that was very rambly. Was there a point or question in there that we can discuss?



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Farmageddon said:
DaRev said:
pezus said:
DaRev said:
pezus said:

I do not reject the maker of the Earth

OK, who is the maker of the Earth, is it Jesus? How do you not reject, or how do you accept this maker of the Earth?

Bold: No. I do not reject the stars and atoms. The 'maker' is not a person/deity.

OK, but if that is your final answer, sorry to tell you this, but I think you are going to hell. Because the 'maker', as I know him, said so and I can show you where he said so.

Now, what you can do to refute that, is prove to me why you think you're not going to hell or that there is no hell - did the stars and atoms you believe in tell you this? if so, show me where, did they write it down?  


I don't want to offend you, but this was hilarious, specially if it's genuine. Enough to leave my lurking position.

Also, I'm not clear on your position on atoms, but if atmos aren't real (or more precisely a very good aproximation in the concerning scope, which is as about "truhfull" as anything can get in science), than even basic eletronics, let alone computers, are the culmination of an amazingly huge pile of unbelievable guesswork. I like my chances of having millions of people believing for centuries in something I made up much, much better. Your position about both hell and atoms being beliefs of the same nature is just absurd.

Also, it's the one with the claim who has to provide evidence. The Bibble tells you Hell is real. You believe The Bibble for some reason. Why is that? Upbringing? Because God told you so?

Which brings me to the more interesting:

richardhutnik said:

As far as knowing something is correct, that is the rabbit hole that runs REALLY deep and leads into a reason why asking God for signs is an absurd proposition, that really doesn't get anywhere.  For me, a big question would be: What would be the expected manifestations of someone who is a real Christian, and how can you tell them apart from those who aren't?  I ask: Do real Christians glow in the dark?  Understand that second meaning.  I also have to ponder, exactly WHAT would one expect to have as an outcome from connecting with God in a real way.  Are Christians to be happy for no reason, for example?  Look at the book of Job where Satan asks God if Job does good for no reason.  That is a trap.  I see it as a trap question fitting into Proverbs where there is a prayer which asks God to have enough to not steal, but not so much as to forget God.  The short of it, the middle path between sin and Godlessness.  And yes, that may be a possibility.

Pardon my ramblings here.  These are just tough issues I deal with in my own life.  I also think the right answer would end up answering the questions of signs.

Now this is really an issue. If some supernatural entity tries to prove me it's  God (or any other "know" entity), why should I believe it? Why couldn't it be a Djin or a demon or something impersonathing it? I mean, I can see religious people saying the real entity wouldn't allow that, but that means you already believe in the existence of the "real" entity and lots of other doctrines about the universe and the supernatural, which makes the whole exercise pointless.

So yeah, in my opinion asking for signs from the perspective of someone who doesn't already believe something can only ever have the effect of showing you that some kind of thing with superpowers exists, but it could never show it's true intentions or nature. It couldn't even give you much in the way of a minimun given extent of it's superpowers since it could be all mind tricks.

Of course this all stays true if the "signal" is just a feeling or something metaphorical.

Also, if something with the ability to bend reality at will exists but can't know it's true intentions or personality than you have absulutely no reason believe anything at all, which makes everything pretty meaningless.

So all in all, yeah, I don't see how asking for a sign would help.

Sorry for the possibly bad structure, I had to type in a hurry.

Signs are not need. You just need to use the same logical reasoning you use to believe any other thing. For example, do you believe there was a man called Alexander the Great? OK how about Abraham Lincoln? Well, the same why you find out about these guys, try finding out about a man named Jesus. No signs need.



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setsunatenshi said:
DaRev said:
pezus said:
DaRev said:

OK, well you're still going to Hell, atoms, because the 'maker' of atoms said so. But the 'maker' of atoms believes in you, atoms, as well you believe in yourself, and he believes you're not as small and insignificant as you think you are, tiny little brainless atoms.

I can't tell if you're serious or not, really. Everything you believe about Jesus and God is all meaningless and you saying I am going to hell doesn't matter to me. Hell only exists in a christian's mind. It sounds to me like you want it to exist. Why would anyone even want that? Well, maybe you'll get your wish and get to visit it someday but I ain't got a ticket.

Ok, well you're still going to hell, seriously and that's no joke. See, the 'maker' said that you would say that about him and his son Jesus and about hell, but he still cares about you, whether or not you care about him or youself.

Hell exists in a christian's mind just as much as atoms do, so to a christian hell and atoms are real - are you real atoms? I "want" hell just as much as I want justice, jail, or laws. I didn't make them up in my mind, they just are, and are real, like atoms.

No atoms, I wouldn't go to hell because hell is kinda like jail. See hell like jail is for people that don't follow the rules. I follow the rules so i'm neither going to jail nor hell. You on the other might excape jail because you abide by a certain set of rules, but, there are some rules, the rules of the 'maker' that you are breaking, and thus, you're on a one way trip to hell trip to hell with tickect valid and accepted. Don't belive that, well that's why ou get older and closer to death,...and ultimately hell or heaven. Tic tok atoms, tic tok. So the moral of the story is atoms, stay out of jail,...and hell.  

I'm glad that god you speak of is simply a product of your imagination. What's curious to be is why would you want to worship it if what you claim is true.

seems like you'd be the kind of person who would worship a dictator just because their power is much supperior to yours. The correct action is to oppose a dictator, not worship him. if whatever president of whatever country you live in sent people to life in jail for not believing and agreeing with him I'm sure you'd be pissed off too. so why this imaginary creature gets a pass?

Look at it this way, you live in a country and you have to obey the country rules, right? If you don't, you get put in jail. Well, you live in God's world and he has his rules for living in his world, just like the country you live in has its rules. So same way as in whatever country you live, if you break the rules of God, you get thrown in jail aka hell.

 

Better yet, you post on VGChartz and you must abide by the rules right? Why don't you try breaking the rules on VG Chartz and see what happens. Same way, you break God's rules there are consiquences. 



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gamemaster4747 said:

God bless you brother in Christ! All of the haters and doubters will face God along with us.

Haha, I've heard of a lot of names for nonbelievers, but 'haters' is a new one. Sounds like a term that would be used in a console war, not something serious like a religion debate.

Theist: Hey, how you doing sir?
Atheist: I'm doing swell.
Theist: Do you believe in God?
Atheist: Nope.
Theist: You just a hater, bro.