Salnax said:
Besides listening to Rol I mean. |
Really? Vita install base by E3 was still very low and showed no signs of the platform supporting a million-seller.
Even now sales are barely 1 mil in each territory. For a game like COD to be a million seller, it would need to have an attach-ratio of 30%. Which is extremely high, and unlikely.
VGKing said:
Really? Vita install base by E3 was still very low and showed no signs of the platform supporting a million-seller. Even now sales are barely 1 mil in each territory. For a game like COD to be a million seller, it would need to have an attach-ratio of 30%. Which is extremely high, and unlikely. |
I overestimated the brand power of some of the Vita games coming out in the portable sphere, and felt certain that sales would improve more as the holdiay lineup and Black Friday kicked in.
Call it leftover optimism from the days the 3DS was struggling. As a fan of portable gaming, I felt certain that a 3DS-style turnaround would happen, at least to an extent. I mean, games like Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed on a handheld ought to do at least as well as Uncharted: GA, right?
| sundin13 said: Vita: 1. FIFA Soccer (.37mil) 2. Rayman Origins (.25) 3. Persona 4 (.24) 4. Assassins Creed (.22) 5. Hatsune Miku (.20) Average: .256mil 3DS 1. Monster Hunter 3G (1.60) 2. Kingdom Hearts (.95) 3. Dragon Quest Monsters (.91) 4. Super Street Fighter IV (.86) 5. (skipping Mario and Sonic) Lego Star Wars (.65) Average: .994mil in fact, there are thirteen 3rd party 3DS games that sold more than the top selling vita 3rd party game. That'll be a tough sell for Sony... |
Someone (you) should make a "Top 10 selling 3rd party 3DS games vs 3rd party Vita games"!! :D
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DanneSandin said:
Someone (you) should make a "Top 10 selling 3rd party 3DS games vs 3rd party Vita games"!! :D |
Hell, if he doesn't get around to making that thread, I'll have to do it myself!
| sundin13 said: @Scisca: okay, lets look at 3rd parties real quick: Vita: 1. FIFA Soccer (.37mil) 2. Rayman Origins (.25) 3. Persona 4 (.24) 4. Assassins Creed (.22) 5. Hatsune Miku (.20) Average: .256mil 3DS 1. Monster Hunter 3G (1.60) 2. Kingdom Hearts (.95) 3. Dragon Quest Monsters (.91) 4. Super Street Fighter IV (.86) 5. (skipping Mario and Sonic) Lego Star Wars (.65) Average: .994mil in fact, there are thirteen 3rd party 3DS games that sold more than the top selling vita 3rd party game. That'll be a tough sell for Sony... |
I personally wouldn't count MH, cause this game would sell like crazy in Japan even if released on a refrigerator display screen. It sells on 3DS, it would sell on Vita as well. 3rd party devs won't buy into an argument like "3rd party games do well on 3DS, just look at MH". If you compare the same titles on both consoles, you get Rayman Vita 0.25 and Rayman 3DS 0.52, so nothing huge.
Add to this the fact that 3DS games on your list have been out for quite a while, while AC:L has been out for 3 weeks, Persona is also new, it isn't even out in Europe. CoD will probably make the top 5 3rd party games soon as well, so this list will start to look better. Obviously Nintendo is ahead, but if you compare it to the 8:1 hardware ratio, you see that 3rd parties aren't really selling great on 3DS. There is space for Sony to fight here, but they need to start to be aggressive and well... they also finally need some luck.
Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!
My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/
My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.
Salnax said:
Hell, if he doesn't get around to making that thread, I'll have to do it myself! |
Yeah, if he doesn't you must!! I don't have the dedication :p
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Scisca said:
I personally wouldn't count MH, cause this game would sell like crazy in Japan even if released on a refrigerator display screen. It sells on 3DS, it would sell on Vita as well. 3rd party devs won't buy into an argument like "3rd party games do well on 3DS, just look at MH". If you compare the same titles on both consoles, you get Rayman Vita 0.25 and Rayman 3DS 0.52, so nothing huge. Add to this the fact that 3DS games on your list have been out for quite a while, while AC:L has been out for 3 weeks, Persona is also new, it isn't even out in Europe. CoD will probably make the top 5 3rd party games soon as well, so this list will start to look better. Obviously Nintendo is ahead, but if you compare it to the 8:1 hardware ratio, you see that 3rd parties aren't really selling great on 3DS. There is space for Sony to fight here, but they need to start to be aggressive and well... they also finally need some luck. |
So what you wanna see is the "Top 10 best selling 3rd party games on the 3DS vs 3rd party games on Vita in 2012"!?
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| Scisca said: I personally wouldn't count MH, cause this game would sell like crazy in Japan even if released on a refrigerator display screen. |
Please don't start down this road. It doesn't end well with anybody.
DanneSandin said:
So what you wanna see is the "Top 10 best selling 3rd party games on the 3DS vs 3rd party games on Vita in 2012"!? |
The problem is these numbers compare IPs, not systems. MH sells well because of its name, that's it. The only fair 3rd party comparison would be 3rd party multiplats. In fact I'll make that thread, "Top 10 Vita and 3DS multiplat games."
JoeTheBro said:
The problem is these numbers compare IPs, not systems. MH sells well because of its name, that's it. The only fair 3rd party comparison would be 3rd party multiplats. In fact I'll make that thread, "Top 10 Vita and 3DS multiplat games." |
Sounds great!!!
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