Kynes said:
Baron said:
Kynes said:
Baron said:
Kynes said:
Baron said:
Kynes said: Take a look at the supposed size of the WiiU. You can't make a very powerful console with so low power requirement, I'm sure that Nintendo has done a good enough, very power optimized console (the EDRAM rumor hints to this) but it can't be several times more powerful than Xbox360 or PS3 with so tiny power profile. |
We know nothing about the Wii U's power profile so I don't know why you bring that up? Size =/= power profile. Power profile is the total TDP of a console. Nintendo has always downsized their consoles along with a considerable step in power. Also, we've got 2 handhelds now that are easily capable of matching last gens hardware. The Vita is even almost as powerful as the 360 and PS3. The Wii U looks to offer a lot more room to hardware than the Vita.
As long as the casing offers sufficiënt cooling Nintendo can opt to put a GTX 680 and a i7 3960X in the Wii U. Off course that won't happen as it will make the console too expensive but size doesn't matter as much as you think
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Size has everything to do with power profile and silence.
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Yes to silence, no to power profile. I've seen custom built PC's no bigger than a small stereo set with the fastest cpu and gpu and water cooling built in. Super fast, high power profile and trashing console performance with ease.
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I'm sure that Nintendo won't use water cooling for the WiiU. Be reasonable, what type of power profile do you think WiiU has? I'm sure that it dissipates less than 100W, it's probable that it's nearer to 50W. |
I know, I'm just giving an example to prove size doesn't matter. Price and Nintendo's goals do. But your TDP estimate is only an assumption really. It could be true but nothing has been said concerning it. We've only heard rumors. Still, with something like a 80 Watt TDP the Wii U could very well be multiple times more powerful than the 360 or PS3. The ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT delivers somewhat the same theoretical performance as the Xenos does. It had a TDP of 50 Watt. If you then take a look at a Radeon 4xxx card with the same TDP you get the 4650 which is already more than twice as powerful than a 2600 XT.
I therefor see no reason why the GPU in the Wii U couldn't be several times more powerful than the Xenos.
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You can't use a 50W graphics card in a 80W console. What do you leave for the processor? RAM? Flash? Wireless and LAN? Motherboard? Audio DSP?... And two things that consume a lot, media reader and refrigeration system. The numbers don't add.
PS: Wii had a power profile of 20W. WiiU isn't much bigger than Wii.
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It has become clear to me you have little understanding of hardware and power profiles. The Wii had a 20 Watt TDP because its hardware is based on components developed in 2001 originally manufactured with a 180nm proces then downsized to 90nm for the Wii. Again, size =/= power profile.
I also never said the GPU in the Wii U is going to have a 50 Watt TDP. I only compared the difference in performance relative to TDP in just two years time by using the 2600 XT and the 4650 as an example. If the Wii U GPU really is manufactured with a 40nm process as rumors suggest then the 5570 with a TDP of 'only' 39 Watts is plenty to smash the performance of the 360's Xenos.
Your assumption seems to be based solely on the fact that the Wii U isn't much bigger than the Wii. Understandable but mistaken.
Until we know what kind of power profile Nintendo has in mind we can't say anything without them being baseless assumptions.