See this is the problem with having separate premier league and football threads, where do I whinge on about the internationals? Anyway, England weren't terrible last night and the goal was harshly disallowed but they still made so many basic errors against average opposition. They'll be fine though, probably still top the group. Was good to have ITV coverage back too:
Tyldlsley, on seeing Welbeck go down in the box: "It's got to be, GOT TO BE!!!"
Townsend: "He's tried to stay on his feet their, he was too honest, if he'd gone down it's a penalty, our brave English lion is just too good a sportsman, unlike these terrible foreigners" (I'm paraphrasing, of course)
Tyldsley, on seeing the replay showing it to be an outrageous dive by Welbeck: "... maybe the ref got it right after all"
Maybe? Ha!
Ireland were dreadful against Kazakhstan, really appalling, and scraped a 2-1 win in the last minute against dire opponents. Embarrassing, I don't know if I can go through another two years of this shit. Trap out!