As I said, they killed because of ideological reasons. An atheistic holy book did not tell them to kill. There is no logical pathway from atheism to killing people, however, from religion, there is.

I also don't get what you mean by atheist favourable ideology. You're not saying that atheists favour communism do you?

1.) because name one unatural thing animals do? Everything they do is natural, they don't know malice or any level of deeper brain thought. They run on instinct and simple problem solving mostly.

2.)How so? Please do tell because I would love to see this argument. By general consensus of definition, Homosexuals are on average...smarter than most heterosexuals. They are also often much more well groomed. Homosexuals also have a penchent for physical health and in many cases are some of the most fit people around. Gays virtually never have unplanned children which makes the raising process a WHOLE lot easier.

Wow this thread got huuuge.

Must say there are some really sickening opinions in this thread.

What that father has done is sickening. If he thinks he "failed" as a parent because his son is gay he's wrong, the moment he "failed" as a parent is when he disowned him over something the son has no control over.

These people should be forced to read what the top medical associations are saying about homosexuality through years of research & unbiased techniques of analysis. But I guess even that wouldn't change their opinion.

We had a interesting workshop on homophobia at the end of last year at med school. The message was that homophobia causes immeasurable damage to confused young teens & feelings of having no way out (and many other potential self-worth issues). This is why LGBT teen suicide rates are so much higher than staight teens. One suicides when one sees no way out...that should be proof enough it's not a "choice"....all these teens need is someone to put a hand on their shoulder and say, "It's okay, it'll get better, you're not a monster & you can have a happy life".

Anyway it's about time this homophobia nonsense ended. Thankfully we seem to be getting closer to acceptance in Western society...in one of our lectures on "surrogacy & alternative conception techniques" at the end the lecturers asked us if we'd find it okay to let two dads have a child. 95% of our year put their hand up. 10 years ago in the same lecture only 10% had put their hand up. They said with each new batch of students the % saying yes for gay parents adoption/surrogacy has gone up. Anecdotal evidence yes but acceptance is growing...

Anyway it seems the thread has turned into something else altogether now with Atheism n stuff lol.

"@Zappykins. With the little knowledge I have of Hitler, I can assure you he was not following the word of God in any way. His quest was in the name of hatred, racism, supremacy and an aryan utopia.

Read this -> http://net-abbey.org/hitler-as-god.htm"

"@Zappykins. With the little knowledge I have of Hitler, I can assure you he was not following the word of God in any way. His quest was in the name of hatred, racism, supremacy and an aryan utopia.

Read this -> http://net-abbey.org/hitler-as-god.htm"

Well, that is an interesting link, but it's not completly factual and makes some unbelievable conclusions.  So say that Hitler declair himself as God because he made the comparrison with the money changers at the temple is obsurd.  People are offened by the money changers (shops) all over Rick Warren's Church/Business but they are in no way declairing themselves as God.

You may not think Hitler was following the 'word of God' but he would disagree with you.  He was absolutely a devote Christian - the Nazi symbol swastika is a type of accient Christian Cross.  He thought he was (like the slave owners in the USA used the Bible to argue that slavery was a justly Christian thing) doing God's work.

Your interpretation of the Word of God may be different (and I really hope it is!) But if someone else thinks they are following 'God's Plan' then they will answer to no one. It's one of those super scary things about the Self Righteousness of some Christianity.  Some can go murder people and still think they are doing the right thing.

Hitler use religion as a propaganda tool to both motivate the masses, and not only justify, but sanctify his actions. (Scary stuff indeed.)

And some of the craziness of his speeches was because he was on Meth.  Meth is one badA drug that messes with your mind.  He was coming down that’s why he was sleeping and couldn’t respond (and they weren’t allowed to wake him) on the battle that started the end of the war.

And a link, which pulls up back on topic, it reminds of the CFA supports screaming about the ‘death to gays’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

"But very fact that the society made out of homosexuals of one gender would go extinct while the heterosexual one would continue to live tells you that homosexuality isn't normal"

Do you really think that could happen?  That homosexuality could spread over the planet like a fabulous colourful silk scarf and make everyone gay?  Everyone in the entire planet just suddenly gay?  (Disco Ball and Plant shops everywhere, people would give up cars and just use rollerblades on the freeways.)

As far as ‘homosexual societies’ I was going to talk about the New Mexico Whiptail lizard, but rather have you just answer the question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

I think he may have been religious, but it was certainly not Christianity that he based himself on, not even close in any way imaginable. He was a monster that wanted to kill people, let alone Jews. I read the article on positive christianity. The only thing true about it is the "positive" term, in that it's positive that he was not following the bible.

Anyways, beside the point he also used ideologies that were rooted in naturalism such as eugenics. So really it goes both ways.

i don't get gay hate.. i mean i have a few gay mates and it doesn't bother me because why would it? its disturbes me when i see things like this because i have to think.. why does this guys dad care so much on where his sons dick goes?

Many people believe in the traditional family unit. It isn't about disturbance, at least not most of the time. Parents want the best for their kids, and sometimes it's easier to just give up on them rather than try to work around the percieved fault, although this is not as morally sound for most individuals, it is by far easier emotionally and effortly. 

I don´t actually know how I would react if my son would tell me he is gay.

Is it really though? The guy's effectively killed off his son in his mind. Maybe it takes less effort, but emotionally I think it's a mixed bag, whether he realises it yet or not. Personally, I'd use the word cowardly rather than easier.

Afterall, it's definitely not easier for his son on an emotional level.