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Player1x3 said:
Runa216 said:
Player1x3 said:
Runa216 said:
The belief itself is still horribly flawed and illogical, regardless.  I've made it clear there are two main things I hate about religion: 

1 - the ignorant faith-based belief system based not on the slightest bit of logic, rationality, or science.  

2 - The people who use this belief system as a launching point for their hate or misinterpret it so they can be bigoted/violent. 

Pretty simple, really. 

1. Like atheism ?

2. Refer to the picture

Atheism isn't that illogical at all.  While we live in a world, where, yes, religion is a thing and therefore it forces people to consider the possibility of a divine creator, the fact of the matter is that there's absolutely no logic backing up the idea that the world, or at least the universe, was created by a higher power.  Science does plenty to support the theory that there is no god by taking away all the things he supposedly did.  While we're still left with a 'beginning' or 'origin' to explain, making a higher power explain it just opens up more questions, such as "If god created the universe, what created God?"  Beliving that the universe was not created by a higher power is not illogical, it makes perfect sense from a scientific standpoint. 

frankly, your crusade agaisnt atheism is really not winning you any favors. 

And what does your picture prove?  It has nothing to do with our argument.  Basically it says that people only believe what's convenient for them at the time, which really isn't an argument in favor of anything you seem to believe in. 


...its so logical i just came xD



Atheism is defined by many, and probably most, as a LACK of belief. You're just focusing on one of the narrow type of atheism to fit your argument.

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It's funny, I've been banned or warned multiple times for arguing with Player1x3....and I think we can all agree he's the one who sucks at this.

Seriously dude, your views and attempts at logic sicken and sadden me.



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Wow the dad is jackass lol. If I ended up having a gay son, I'm not going to lie, but I would be pretty disappointed, but who cares it's his choice nothing should really change.



           

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Kantor said:
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What's with the hate. He never pushed his opinions on anyone and is just sharing his opinion.

The problem I find in most of these threads is that too many people are incapable of making this debate a non-personal debate, as shocking as a statement may be to you, it is that person's point of view and here to be discussed.

Honestly, is there anything wrong with these words?

I'm not hating. You seem to be implying that being gay is somehow a punishment

:) If his mind is not ready it certainly would be a torment and like you said "hopefully he won't harm and despise himself". You tricky guy :P You're not getting a perfect game here! ;)



Player1x3 said:
Runa216 said:

Atheism isn't that illogical at all.  While we live in a world, where, yes, religion is a thing and therefore it forces people to consider the possibility of a divine creator, the fact of the matter is that there's absolutely no logic backing up the idea that the world, or at least the universe, was created by a higher power.  Science does plenty to support the theory that there is no god by taking away all the things he supposedly did.  While we're still left with a 'beginning' or 'origin' to explain, making a higher power explain it just opens up more questions, such as "If god created the universe, what created God?"  Beliving that the universe was not created by a higher power is not illogical, it makes perfect sense from a scientific standpoint. 

frankly, your crusade agaisnt atheism is really not winning you any favors. 

And what does your picture prove?  It has nothing to do with our argument.  Basically it says that people only believe what's convenient for them at the time, which really isn't an argument in favor of anything you seem to believe in. 


...its so logical i just came xD

I'm trying to get angry about that image, but I honestly can't. It's just so illogical and circular that it's hilarious.



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blkfish92 said:
Wow the dad is jackass lol. If I ended up having a gay son, I'm not going to lie, but I would be pretty disappointed, but who cares it's his choice nothing should really change.

See, this would be an understandable point of view. I'm sure you wouldn't love him any less, and you would understand.

Minor point: no, it isn't his choice any more than being straight was your choice.



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Kantor said:
blkfish92 said:
Wow the dad is jackass lol. If I ended up having a gay son, I'm not going to lie, but I would be pretty disappointed, but who cares it's his choice nothing should really change.

See, this would be an understandable point of view. I'm sure you wouldn't love him any less, and you would understand.

Minor point: no, it isn't his choice any more than being straight was your choice.


Well a lot of people are pretty damn derp sadly. Must be one terrible father that's for sure. Or who knows maybe he was a good dad up until he discovered his son was gay?



           



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