Kantor said:
Player1x3 said:
Runa216 said:
Atheism isn't that illogical at all. While we live in a world, where, yes, religion is a thing and therefore it forces people to consider the possibility of a divine creator, the fact of the matter is that there's absolutely no logic backing up the idea that the world, or at least the universe, was created by a higher power. Science does plenty to support the theory that there is no god by taking away all the things he supposedly did. While we're still left with a 'beginning' or 'origin' to explain, making a higher power explain it just opens up more questions, such as "If god created the universe, what created God?" Beliving that the universe was not created by a higher power is not illogical, it makes perfect sense from a scientific standpoint.
frankly, your crusade agaisnt atheism is really not winning you any favors.
And what does your picture prove? It has nothing to do with our argument. Basically it says that people only believe what's convenient for them at the time, which really isn't an argument in favor of anything you seem to believe in.
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...its so logical i just came xD
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I'm trying to get angry about that image, but I honestly can't. It's just so illogical and circular that it's hilarious.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3][4][5] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[4][5][6][7] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[8][9] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.
There is no definitive proof that their is a god, no physical or tangible evidence. Yet Religion will argue that there is no proof there isn't either. The only hint of physical proof for christianity would be the Bible. But why is this seen as truth? Because it is the word of god. But how do you know its the actual word of God? Because the Bible tells me so................. :/
Atheists simply are saying show me the proof? And seeing as you cannot your conclusions are faulty. I always found one very big falacy in the whole one god religions. That would be their belief that it is impossible for the universe as we know it to be complete happenstance, a series of coincedences, an accident if you will. Ok, well if everything must come from a source of sorts, which in this case is an omnipitant beeing, where did God come from? Who created him? By their logic alone it is impossible for him to just..."BE" and it must be devine calculations at work. So why do we believe in God as apposed to God's God? I mean, we dont worship our parents do we? We respect them but we are suppose to look past them to the greater hiarchy of things. So why stop there when you can worship God's God's God. And the paradox never ends.
How about we just stick to what we know,studied,learned for the past 2000 years. Using reasonable logic dictated by well known facts. Hypothesizing a possible answer with truth and not just filling in blanks because we don't want to have to think.
I love how Doctor Who/Torchwood approach this subject because they tap into the truth behind the lies. In their world, Aliens are finally realized to be real. In that instant, massive suicide breaks. When asked they say it is because many cannot cope with the scariness of the unknown. The fact that we are not the center of the universe and we learn just how small and insignificant we are as an individual. There entire sense of being implodes upon itself, religion, their job, their families, it all begins to feel mighty trivial. Which just goes to show many would rather live in blissful ignorance than face cold and very dark reality. I can understand it a little, I get this sinking feeling when I watch documentaries of how vast and limitless space is.