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Forums - Sales Discussion - July 2012 NPD Thread (360=203k, PS3+Wii=211k, DS=3DS, PSV=Flatline)

Vita numbers are just incredibly bad. I think Sony should cut the price for the holiday season or do something.

Surprised at Black Ops numbers. I guess people really do appreciate the zombies more? Looks like Black Ops 2 is easily going to break MW3 records, which broke Black Ops 1 records. People can't stop buying COD!

Nice to see Dead Island hit the top 10. I got the GOTY for $20 last month.



It's just that simple.

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LTD Figures (roughly)

DS - 52.2m (Last 12 months - 2.2m, down from 12 month peak about 12m)

PS2 - 46.2m (Peak 12 months - 8.7m)

Wii - 39.6m (Last 12 Months - 3.5m, down from 12 month peak of 10.9m)

X360 - 34.6m (Last 12 months - 6.4m, down from 12 month peak of 7.4m)

PS3 - 21.5m (Last 12 months - 4.1m, down 12 month peak of 5.0m)

PSP - 19.7m (Last 12 months - 0.65m, down from 12 month peak of almost 4m)

3DS - Over 5.1m (Last 12 months - 4.4m)

Vita - Almost 700k

HW sales are so bad in the US right now it's amazing -

Jan - July 2012 HW - 7.15m

Jan - July 2011 HW - 10.55m

Jan - July 2010 HW - 11.50m

Jan - July 2009 HW - 12.90m

Jan - July 2008 HW - 14.30m

Jan - July 2007 HW - 12.10m

Jan - July 2006 HW - 8.40m

Jan - July 2005 HW - 8.70m

Jan - July 2004 HW - 7.6m

Jan - July 2003 HW - 8.1m

Jan - July 2002 HW - 8.4m

Jan - July 2001 HW - 6.0m



People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.

When there are more laws, there are more criminals.

- Lao Tzu

Tell me about it, unless we get new hardware over here in NA fast the whole industry is going to tank

Let this be a lesson to console manufacturers to never let a generation last this long again. If we really arent going to get the next xbox till the end of next year sales in the US for the HD consoles will be abysmal, especially with the Wii U coming out and further hurting their sales.

We may see 360 and PS3 next year hit truely unimaginable bad sales



maybe we will finnaly see a real cut to bring the 360 with hdd down in price.... id like to see the non hard drive toter go away ... unless they are willing to make it 99 bucks... maybe a 360 with hdd for 149.99 and kinect for 249.99



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For the 2 new 3DS music games,
SE ≈ SEGA * 6

And
SE ≈ Diablo like * 2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40859642&postcount=674

I presume SE means Square Enix, which means Theatrhythm has sold 6 times more than Rhythm Thief. Don't know what Diablo means though.



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Pokemonbrawlvg said:
For the 2 new 3DS music games,
SE ≈ SEGA * 6

And
SE ≈ Diablo like * 2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40859642&postcount=674

I presume SE means Square Enix, which means Theatrhythm has sold 6 times more than Rhythm Thief. Don't know what Diablo means though.

A Diablo-like 3DS game? Gotta be referring to Heroes of Ruin, no?



happydolphin said:
The writing is not yet on the wall. Give Vita at least one more holiday season. If it fails by then to make any reasonable sales levels AND the 3DS booms, then it's over imho.

Very strange happenings indeed.


I beg to differ.  The writing is on the wall.  With these dismal  numbers third parties will likely abandon Vita in a major way by 2013.  So even if it has a decent holiday season, it's going into hibernation aftewards.



the_dengle said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
For the 2 new 3DS music games,
SE ≈ SEGA * 6

And
SE ≈ Diablo like * 2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40859642&postcount=674

I presume SE means Square Enix, which means Theatrhythm has sold 6 times more than Rhythm Thief. Don't know what Diablo means though.

A Diablo-like 3DS game? Gotta be referring to Heroes of Ruin, no?

Yeah, that's what I guess too! So, Theatrhythm sold twice as many as Heroes of Ruin. Of course this means Rhythm Thief and Heroes of Ruin bombed since Theatrhythm sold like 70k or 80k copies.

Heroes of Ruin = 35k or 40k

Rhythm Thief = 8.75k or 10k



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shakarak said:
happydolphin said:
The writing is not yet on the wall. Give Vita at least one more holiday season. If it fails by then to make any reasonable sales levels AND the 3DS booms, then it's over imho.

Very strange happenings indeed.


I beg to differ.  The writing is on the wall.  With these dismal  numbers third parties will likely abandon Vita in a major way by 2013.  So even if it has a decent holiday season, it's going into hibernation aftewards.

Reason I say wait till holidays to judge is because this holiday we will see the launch performance (most significant portion) of some of the most important games to come on the Vita, as far as the West is concerned, that is:

Little Big Planet Vita, Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation, Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, and Call of Duty:Black Ops Declassified.

These, apart from an eventual GTA, are some of the most crucial titles to come to the system. If they fail, it would pretty much be game over. So for now, let's wait and see.



Pokemonbrawlvg said:

Yeah, that's what I guess too! So, Theatrhythm sold twice as many as Heroes of Ruin. Of course this means Rhythm Thief and Heroes of Ruin bombed since Theatrhythm sold like 70k or 80k copies.

Heroes of Ruin = 35k or 40k

Rhythm Thief = 8.75k or 10k

If Theatrhythm sold 70-80k, wouldn't that put Rhythm Thief at more like 11.5-13.5k? (Not a huge difference, of course, but still.)