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SaviorX said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Max Payne 3 I feel should never have been attempted by Rockstar in the way it was. The IP was already dying with MP2 and it's been near a decade since then, yet they invested time and money into it as if it would hit 'Rockstar-like' sales numbers. A large miscalculation.

Max Payne 2 was pretty bad..........

And it sold poorly to boot. Exactly my point. 



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Galaki said:
Naum said:
Guess they couldn't rely on Carnival games this time...

Nope. They banded together and killed the Wii dead. Now, they can't get all the free money because they forgot to feed to cash cow.

funny thing is they did and you are wrong. They did release subsequent Carnival games, but they werent anywhere near as popular as the orginal. Why did alot less people buy those games, I have no idea



I think there's a problem with the bigger picture here: a game selling 3 million copies at full price couldn't pay off its budget...



oniyide said:
Galaki said:
Naum said:
Guess they couldn't rely on Carnival games this time...

Nope. They banded together and killed the Wii dead. Now, they can't get all the free money because they forgot to feed to cash cow.

funny thing is they did and you are wrong. They did release subsequent Carnival games, but they werent anywhere near as popular as the orginal. Why did alot less people buy those games, I have no idea

Fooled me once...



Galaki said:
oniyide said:
Galaki said:
Naum said:
Guess they couldn't rely on Carnival games this time...

Nope. They banded together and killed the Wii dead. Now, they can't get all the free money because they forgot to feed to cash cow.

funny thing is they did and you are wrong. They did release subsequent Carnival games, but they werent anywhere near as popular as the orginal. Why did alot less people buy those games, I have no idea

Fooled me once...


fair enough, but personally, should have probably seen that one coming



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The problem with Max Payne 3 was the enormous budget, apparently it cost over 100$ million. Absolutely ridiculous for a game like that.



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Fusioncode said:
The problem with Max Payne 3 was the enormous budget, apparently it cost over 100$ million. Absolutely ridiculous for a game like that.

That's effed up.  I mean, I know GTA 4 had a budget that high, but even that game shouldn't have needed that budget.  I mean if Naughty Dog can keep Uncharted in the 20 million, 2 year dev cycle then they could keep Max Payne in check.  As another comparison, God of War 3's budget was 50 million, came in under budget at 45 million (God of War 2 had the same budget) and about a 3 year dev cycle.



Max Payne 3 is a disaster. Whoever signed the dotted line agreeing to a $100m budget is a moron and should be fired



darkknightkryta said:
Fusioncode said:
The problem with Max Payne 3 was the enormous budget, apparently it cost over 100$ million. Absolutely ridiculous for a game like that.

That's effed up.  I mean, I know GTA 4 had a budget that high, but even that game shouldn't have needed that budget.  I mean if Naughty Dog can keep Uncharted in the 20 million, 2 year dev cycle then they could keep Max Payne in check.  As another comparison, God of War 3's budget was 50 million, came in under budget at 45 million (God of War 2 had the same budget) and about a 3 year dev cycle.

Yup, I have no idea where all the money went. They must have restarted production several times or something. Take Two messed this up pretty bad, shame since it's a very well made title.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I hope this doesnt affect another Bully, that game doesnt need that much money