Chandler said:
Sony. I hope they do. |
sony to think more in TV..because this is what can do
Nintendo it's for videogame
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Chandler said:
Sony. I hope they do. |
sony to think more in TV..because this is what can do
Nintendo it's for videogame
NintendoPie said:
I think that's what it would look like. |
So I guess we have the following:
So of those games we have a sequel (New Little King's Story) to a game that sold ~260,000 copies. A game in a franchise in which the last couple of installments have pretty much completely bombed (Silent Hill). Another game in a declining franchise (LittleBigPlanet) in which the last installed sold about half the previous one. Smart As and Soul Sacrifice which to be honest I don't see as million sellers or making any real impact at all.
That leaves spinoffs Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation and Call of Duty: Declassification as the big Vita exclusives this year. I'm not sure about AC3 but considering they've shown no gameplay for Declassification or even given a release date should worry some people about the possibility that it could become a rushed ~70-75 Metacritic game. Also the fact that major installments of those franchises are coming to consoles might keep fans of those series there instead of jumping onto Vita.
The second half the year is going to be make it or break it for Vita so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
it's always incredibly fun to watch these threads...Damn system has been out for *counts* a little over 5 months now, which is still less than half a year, and yet there's still a new 'Vita is dead' 'no it's not' thread every week. While it certainly can be doing better than it is, and its initial sales have been crappy, claiming it has no games is a big joke. it has to be. It had the strongest lineup of ANY console or handheld, ever, first and foremost, not to mention we all know how crummy the PS3s lineup was when it launched and look at how well it's done in catching up to the Xbox. It's only 2 million short of the 360 and it did it with a full year less time, selling more units per month than its counterpart.
I mean, it doesn't matter what angle you look at it from, it's too damn early to be singing at a doomsday party. the 3DS had an atrocious launch with much less stuff than the Vita had, and it ended up doing juuuust fine once the heavy hitters came out. PS3 had much the same issue.
If you're honestly in the boat thinking "The Vita is dead", then shame on you, and you're clearly not the kind of person anyone who loves games wants to converse with. Go do whatever it is you do and let us rational and/or optimistic people enjoy what we can.
Besides, the winter is coming. if it makes even 8 million by year's end, that's a damn fine first year for a console. Just because it can't match the industry leader in handheld gaming doesn't make it a failure any more than the PSP's 70+ million sales didn't make it a failure despite the DS making more than double that.
Sit down, shut up, and enjoy what you've got. Nothing good comes from overt negativity; no, you can't argue that you're 'just being logical', because you're not. The system is 5 months old with plenty of great games already and a tonne more on the horizon. All it needs is a "system+memory card" package deal and it'll sell like hotcakes; as it stands it's still a touch too expensive...issues both the PS3 and 3DS had to overcome before kicking ass.
Besides, as it stands we have completely original gamses like Gravity Rush on the system, not to mention some awesome enhanced ports of games like Rayman Origins, Mortal Kombat, and Disgaea 3; plenty of original entries in established franchises like ModNation Racers, Wipeout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, and Resistance: burning Skies, and a hell of a lot of awesome downloadable games like Super Stardust Delta, Mutant Blobs Attack, Escape Plan, and more on the horizon. Oh, and to make it even better, once Sony gets off its ass and helps integrate the cross system compatibility stuff, games like Playstation All Stars and Sly Cooper 4 are going to really help system sales.
You have 13 months before you're allowed to call the system a failure. It's got a year and a half total before anyone has any place declaring its premature postmortem.
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I'm sure it'll pick up steam in Japan and Europe once it gets a price drop and some big titles come out, but here in America this thing never had a chance. It'll be on death's door by the time all three next-gen home consoles are out, mark my words.
On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.
| NightDragon83 said: I'm sure it'll pick up steam in Japan and Europe once it gets a price drop and some big titles come out, but here in America this thing never had a chance. It'll be on death's door by the time all three next-gen home consoles are out, mark my words. |
how about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00
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i can still remember when PS3 was dead. man how did it end up top selling console week after week after it died? if a system is being branded as dead, what it actually means is it will go on to be very successfull
It does have games, but where's the killer app? Where's the incentive for the average consumer to say 'BUY ME!'? I don't see it. Very few of those games will break 500k, and one of two may, MAY hit 1mil after a long time.
And don't say COD or Assassin's Creed, neither have done well on established consoles before, that isn't changing now. COD is very much a console affair. Why would the average consumer buy a Vita, a memory card and the game (coming to near £300, likely), when they could get it on an established console, with millions online, for less than 1/5th the price? Assassin's Creed has a similar problem, but not as bad. The short-burst mission structure works well for handhelds, so it could push a few systems.
What's missing? A GTA. A Final Fantasy. A Monster Hunter. A Gran Turismo. A Ratchet And Clank. All exclusive. Any one of those five would immediately make the system worth buying for many, but for now, Sony seem more interested in, as you mentioned, the Wonderbook than even letting people know the Vita exsists, let alone what games are avaliable for it...
The Vita is a great system. I love mine, and I love Gravity Rush. But that's all I have. And that's finished. What now? The other features can only interest you for so long, it's the games that will talk. But it can never be considered a success until it has these 'killer-apps', and until it sells well (well over 100k each week). So, for now (regreattably), it is doomed.
And your poll is a lie. The options are either 'yes, it's the best handheld ever', or 'well, it'll be good even if it sells badly'. But I'm sure that was deliberate. 
Runa216 said:
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U mad, bro?
5 months after launch and it hasn't even broken 1 million units in the Americas yet (or any other region for that matter), and it's being outsold by the Wii and original DS on a weekly basis. Simple fact is that in America (specifically the US) the Sony brand isn't as strong as it used to be, the PSP is deader than dead, and everyone tends to associate the Vita with the PSP, so they avoid it like the plague.
On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.
| Legend11 said: So I guess we have the following:
So of those games we have a sequel (New Little King's Story) to a game that sold ~260,000 copies. A game in a franchise in which the last couple of installments have pretty much completely bombed (Silent Hill). Another game in a declining franchise (LittleBigPlanet) in which the last installed sold about half the previous one. Smart As and Soul Sacrifice which to be honest I don't see as million sellers or making any real impact at all. That leaves spinoffs Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation and Call of Duty: Declassification as the big Vita exclusives this year. I'm not sure about AC3 but considering they've shown no gameplay for Declassification or even given a release date should worry some people about the possibility that it could become a rushed ~70-75 Metacritic game. Also the fact that major installments of those franchises are coming to consoles might keep fans of those series there instead of jumping onto Vita. The second half the year is going to be make it or break it for Vita so it'll be interesting to see what happens. |
Actually LittleBigPlanet is one of the biggest Sony franchises, the two PS3 games have strong sales. The second one is newer and didn't have as many bundles as the first, but comes with good weekly sales. Judging for the amount of people online all the time, it doesn't seems to die anytime soon. It's a unique game, one of the most creative of this gen. And we'll got a spin-off this year (LBP Karting).
Besides that, I think that CoD and AC3 are very strong titles. The first one manages to launch a new game each year and sell 25 milion units all the time. It's one of the biggest franchises (or the biggest) right now. AC is on of the biggest franchises this gen too and has a lot of potential. I
NightDragon83 said:
U mad, bro? 5 months after launch and it hasn't even broken 1 million units in the Americas yet (or any other region for that matter), and it's being outsold by the Wii and original DS on a weekly basis. Simple fact is that in America (specifically the US) the Sony brand isn't as strong as it used to be, the PSP is deader than dead, and everyone tends to associate the Vita with the PSP, so they avoid it like the plague. |
if it's any consolation, I was looking for the Rock saying "how about a tall glass of shut the hell up", more comedic, less angry.
And dude, are you completely trying to ignore facts? the PS3 had a similarly dismal launch and yet look where that ended up. Likely end up over 90 million units by the time it's all said and done. not to mention the first few years of the PS3's lifetime were cannibalized by the established and remarkably successful PS2. Even IF the PSP was outselling the Vita, it's not unheard of. Same thing happened in the formative months of the DS..but again, you failed to do your research becuase the Vita has been the second best selling handheld for a few months now (granted, it's not doing MUCH better than the PSP on a worldwide scale, but that's not the point, the point is that you're wrong.)
And if you're talking just the US, well, don't be so arrogant, the US and Canada aren't all that matter.
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