Jeez... I just read that one of the women who was killed narrowly escaped the mall shooting in Toronto last month.

i often read from us-americans fighting for their gun rights using switzerland as example just to show that many guns aren't the reason for higher crime rates, murder rates, whatever...then they often say "crime rates are lower nowadays in usa with same amount of weapons" forgetting that almost every developed country has a much lower murder or whatever rate than 20 years ago. just one question, have you ever been in switzerland? if yes, you should know why there doesn't happen so much in this country. we are talking here about people in america who as example lose their jobs becoming desperate and IF they have already a gun at home, it is a much easier step to do something stupid with it as if they would have to buy a weapon illegally to do something with it then. or junkies who need money and have a stolen weapon from the last burglary because yes, many who illegally have a wepon in usa have one stolen from someone who had it legally.they find the weapon in a drawer or so and take it then. i don't really want to know how many people died because a burglar stole a wepon at his last burglary using that some weeks later at another burglary. your right to self defence gives those people more possibilities to get those weapon for free because junkies don't really have money to buy a weapon. but stealing them in a house searching for some money? why not right?

and if i look at the last school massacres in germany, you know what was always the same? all of the kids had parents who where members of a weapon "club" owning weapons legally. in germany, everyone with a legal weapon has to have a weapon safe with a code or something like that and still, it happened more than once (a school massacre). can't believe people really believe they would have bought a wepon on the black market instead of using the weapon of the parents.

i wonder why people in countries were you can't buy a wepon as easy as in the usa don't feel the need to get these right to safe their own lifes. people in these countries should all want to get american laws if it comes to this but exactly these people don't like the american weapon law.

If you are talking strictly about me, I have a military background, so if someone comes at me with a knife he better know how to use it. If someone breaks into your house with a knife, a baseball bat will do the trick, you dont need a gun. But if you so insist one your guns, fine. I have no problem with that, but at least have some form of license for guns, with safety lessons and psychic evaluation and stuff. It boggles my mind that you need a drivers license in the US but anybody can buy a gun. And those civilean assault rifles - are you kidding me? How can you even justify those with self defense?

My god..

been watching this nearly all day...it appears only 12 were killed and 59 injured...that's a total of 71 casualties...things like this really but in perspective how fragile life is...I mean who would've thought something like this could happen at a movie theater.

Strange nonetheless, I just don't understand.

unfortunately most criminals dont buy their guns through legal means anyway, so better screening wouldnt even work.

i just wish there would have been a conceal/open carryier there to stop the shooter. 

they had an interview with a lady that was in the theater, she was on the ground at the shooters feet, as he was shooting everyone else, just imagine if she was a gun owner, this whole thing couldve been stopped.

as for the bolded, thats never happened, and you are tought in gun classes to alsways be aware of your surroundings and who is in your line of sight, so unless its a retard gun owner, he wouldnt shoot unless it was a clear shot.

sure just as soon as you have to go through riguous training and schooling to get your free speech and religion permit.