badgenome said:
crissindahouse said:
badgenome said:
Murder rate, but not in terms of overall violent crime. Unless things have changed in the past few years, which I doubt they have given the fact that the US crime rate keeps falling.
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which numbers did they use for these statistics? did they just use numbers every country releases as "violent crime" or did they make the own statistics to be sure every number as exactly the same kind of violence as "violent crime"?
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I'm not sure how it's accounted for in the other EU countries or in South Africa, but the US and UK have similar defintions of "violent crime". Since they can directly compare murder and assault rates, it would seem they know what specific kinds of violence are being committed. And, of course, the UK still has a lower murder rate than the US and certainly South Africa.
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i edited my post a little bit.
just as example, they write "The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935"
and that's exactly what i was talking about in my other post, they count much more in canada as violent crime as they do in usa, so you have to put canada and other countries lower or you have to increase the number of usa drastically. it makes no sense to compare the numbers if one country doesn't count something as violent crime and the other country does.
so they pretty much use wrong numbers at least for canada and usa in comparison:
"A comparison of crime rates between Canada and the United States is often sought by the media, researchers and
policy makers. Both countries have their own Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) survey. However, no official study on
the comparability of the crime rates resulting from these surveys has been conducted. With the recent growth of the
Internet, many unofficial crime comparisons are being performed, with very little attention paid to differences in
definitions, classification, and scoring rules.
This methodological study was undertaken to determine if police-reported crime categories could be compared
between Canada and the United States. As there are only eight “index” offences in the American UCR survey
(compared to over 100 in the Canadian UCR survey), the study was limited to examining these eight offences at the
incident level."
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85f0035x/85f0035x2001000-eng.pdf
i'm not saying usa is higher than uk, but i really doubt uk is above south africa (i was there plenty of times) and i don't believe the other european countries count so less to violent crime as usa does but yeah, i don't know it.