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I don't like England to be honest. Everytime I go to a british news site, and talk with british people, they struck me as... well, that's it. They struck me. Mentally I mean. It feels devoid of soul, like if one of these hooded guys from Harry Potter sucked it out. I don't really know how to explain it.

I propose the immediate devolution of Britain to the celts and scattering the british between Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the USA. Who's with me?



 

 

 

 

 

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You wont have Hollywood without USA.



spurgeonryan said:
We have some things wrong with us SethN, but so has England over the past century or so. Countless wars, losing territories, Princess Diana dying, etc. That is actually the extent of my knowledge on that country. But they have had plenty of bad times, many even wanted to leave and come to America, just like you. So just be patient and we will fix some of our problems. Maybe.

HOW DARE SOMEONE DIE!

I HATE THIS COUNTRY! SOMEONE DIED IN IT! 

 

(I miss Diana).

And America has had more wars than England. True dat.But everyone's screwed. That much is true



 

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crissindahouse said:
badgenome said:
sethnintendo said:

Going by murder rate the US has a pretty good lead on the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Other violent crimes I am sure we are ahead of also.

Murder rate, but not in terms of overall violent crime. Unless things have changed in the past few years, which I doubt they have given the fact that the US crime rate keeps falling.

which numbers did they use for these statistics? did they just use numbers every country releases as "violent crime" or did they make the own statistics to be sure every number as exactly the same kind of violence as "violent crime"?

I'm not sure how it's accounted for in the other EU countries or in South Africa, but the US and UK have similar defintions of "violent crime". Since they can directly compare murder and assault rates, it would seem they know what specific kinds of violence are being committed. And, of course, the UK still has a lower murder rate than the US and certainly South Africa.



deskpro2k3 said:
You wont have Hollywood without USA.

Well, that settles it. Abolish the USA.



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badgenome said:
crissindahouse said:
badgenome said:
sethnintendo said:

Going by murder rate the US has a pretty good lead on the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Other violent crimes I am sure we are ahead of also.

Murder rate, but not in terms of overall violent crime. Unless things have changed in the past few years, which I doubt they have given the fact that the US crime rate keeps falling.

which numbers did they use for these statistics? did they just use numbers every country releases as "violent crime" or did they make the own statistics to be sure every number as exactly the same kind of violence as "violent crime"?

I'm not sure how it's accounted for in the other EU countries or in South Africa, but the US and UK have similar defintions of "violent crime". Since they can directly compare murder and assault rates, it would seem they know what specific kinds of violence are being committed. And, of course, the UK still has a lower murder rate than the US and certainly South Africa.

i edited my post a little bit.

just as example, they write "The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935"

and that's exactly what i was talking about in my other post, they count much  more in canada as violent crime as they do in usa, so you have to put canada and other countries lower or you have to increase the number of usa drastically. it makes no sense to compare the numbers if one country doesn't count something as violent crime and the other country does.

so they pretty much use wrong numbers at least for canada and usa in comparison:

"A comparison of crime rates between Canada and the United States is often sought by the media, researchers and
policy makers. Both countries have their own Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) survey. However, no official study on
the comparability of the crime rates resulting from these surveys has been conducted. With the recent growth of the
Internet, many unofficial crime comparisons are being performed, with very little attention paid to differences in
definitions, classification, and scoring rules.


This methodological study was undertaken to determine if police-reported crime categories could be compared
between Canada and the United States. As there are only eight “index” offences in the American UCR survey
(compared to over 100 in the Canadian UCR survey), the study was limited to examining these eight offences at the
incident level."

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85f0035x/85f0035x2001000-eng.pdf

i'm not saying usa is higher than uk, but i really doubt uk is above south africa (i was there plenty of times) and i don't believe the other european countries count so less to violent crime as usa does but yeah, i don't know it.



homer said:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/6108496.stm


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/fear-of-crime-makes-uk-most-watched-country-in-europe-561265.html

"British people are living in greater fear of crime than any other European nation, an anxiety that is fuelling the massive increase in closed circuit television (CCTV) cameras, a two-year study has revealed."

"Fears that the UK would "sleep-walk into a surveillance society" have become a reality, the government's information commissioner has said."

"We have more CCTV cameras and we have looser laws on privacy and data protection."

"There are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people."

I assume BBC is a reputable source right? Maybe they are just really good at hiding them?


Why is it a bad thing? You should only be against it if you like to not be caught up to no good. Shouldn't it be a safer invironment with more cameras. Seriously unless your a serial rapist or the town paedo then you shouldnt care about the amount of cameras there are. I have nothing to hide so the big brother can keep watching me.



SWORDF1SH said:
homer said:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/6108496.stm


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/fear-of-crime-makes-uk-most-watched-country-in-europe-561265.html

"British people are living in greater fear of crime than any other European nation, an anxiety that is fuelling the massive increase in closed circuit television (CCTV) cameras, a two-year study has revealed."

"Fears that the UK would "sleep-walk into a surveillance society" have become a reality, the government's information commissioner has said."

"We have more CCTV cameras and we have looser laws on privacy and data protection."

"There are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people."

I assume BBC is a reputable source right? Maybe they are just really good at hiding them?


Why is it a bad thing? You should only be against it if you like to not be caught up to no good. Shouldn't it be a safer invironment with more cameras. Seriously unless your a serial rapist or the town paedo then you shouldnt care about the amount of cameras there are. I have nothing to hide so the big brother can keep watching me.

That is grade A BS logic in my eyes. It's not whether someone has something to hide, it's respecting other people's privacy. The government should never have that much power. The government is getting too strong everywhere. They try to tell us how to live and I'm sick of it. Now they want to tell me what to buy too. It's BS.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius

England come low down in murder but has one of the highest crime rate? That doesnt add up to me. Surely there must be different levels that each country considers something a crime. There is no way that England as a similar crime rate to the US. Higher crime rate to South Africa? no frikkin way. Have you seen the South African Police. Theyre a waste of time and corupt. And they dont give a crap about the poor. So if a poor guy got assaulted in south africa, i bet that doesnt go down as a crime. Same goes for a lot of the countries.



I just want to clarify the whole CCTV camera thing.

It's really not that bad. It makes you feel safer, if anything, and it's non-intrusive. It's only there for safety, and most of the time it isn't even turned on, or deleted immediately. It's certainly a non-issue, unlike what the press would have you believe...



 

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