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darkknightkryta said:
noname2200 said:

darkknightkryta said:
As it is highly glossed over, smartphones is the reason. Smartphones have small sales in Japan...

*sigh*

Srsly?


Smartphones aren't a hot commodity in Japan, regular phones with a lot of features are.  Why do you think the majority of phones are touch screen-less flip phones?  It's the main reason why handhelds can survive Japan.

Leaving aside the fact that for over a decade the Japanese mobile industry has been pumping out games like FFIV: The After long before smartphones really existed, over 24 million smartphones were sold in Japan in 2011 alone. That's out of a population of 127 million.

Although fact one is also really, really important in the context of this overall discussion.



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teigaga said:
MDMAlliance said:
One reason I think is that Japan likes Nintendo more than America does. Another thing is that I think here in North America, people are more likely to blindly support the system with better specs and write off the other system as a failure, without even considering the systems capabilities. This means "PS Vita is better in every way, 3DS sucks because the PS Vita is so much stronger and the PSP is probably stronger too." I've seen it everywhere and lots of people in person think that, too. This group may be relatively small in comparison to the whole community of gamers, but it definitely seems more prevalent here.

I also agree that localization of games should occur more often, as well as globalized releases that it seems Luigi's Mansion will be getting. I think those promote sales, as well as special bundles and designs for the 3DS.


Vita does have more potential as a gaming system :)

biggest load of crap ever. Each system has as much potential as the developers care to give it.

Wii is the proof of that. 99% taked on motion controls 1% utlised it well becuase they thought about how to use it as a primary thought and not an after thought when game was finished.



 

 

happydolphin said:
Araknie said:

This thread is pointless.

According to this very site:

Japan totals: 6.3M
Europe totals: 4.6M
North America totals: 5.6M

Not doing well in the west? The 3DS?

I feel a troll in the air, please someone close this thread. I'm starting to get mad for the amount of the hate Nintendo after the E3, yeah because Sony and Microsoft conferences were so effin great. LOL

@Bold. BAHAHAHA This is NintendoPie you're talking about. I've never seen a user love Nintendo as much as this guy. No, you're getting it wrong.

What he meant was, not so well in the west as compared to how other consoles usually fair in proportion to Japan, especially the 3DS' predecessor:

PosPlatformNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
2 Nintendo DS (DS) 55.31 51.40 33.01 12.43 152.15

As you can see, it's almost 3 to 1, west to japan. Right now for 3DS, Japan beasts US and Europe individually 1 to 1.

So you see, his question is valid. For 3DS to reach the numbers DS reached, it would take for NoA to get its A in gear. Europe is another story, they're doing well with localization and such, the econonmy is just so-so I guess. But NA is still buying consoles, so something's wrong.


Are you for real? XD 

I'm just lolling right now because Nintendo DS was out for so many year, that i get now this thread i out just to have fun. Ok have fun guys. XD



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Because it has no amazing games like pocketplanets that are 50 times cheaper as the 3DS games while being more fun than MOST of 3DS library at the moment.



 

Cobretti2 said:
teigaga said:
MDMAlliance said:
One reason I think is that Japan likes Nintendo more than America does. Another thing is that I think here in North America, people are more likely to blindly support the system with better specs and write off the other system as a failure, without even considering the systems capabilities. This means "PS Vita is better in every way, 3DS sucks because the PS Vita is so much stronger and the PSP is probably stronger too." I've seen it everywhere and lots of people in person think that, too. This group may be relatively small in comparison to the whole community of gamers, but it definitely seems more prevalent here.

I also agree that localization of games should occur more often, as well as globalized releases that it seems Luigi's Mansion will be getting. I think those promote sales, as well as special bundles and designs for the 3DS.


Vita does have more potential as a gaming system :)

biggest load of crap ever. Each system has as much potential as the developers care to give it.

Wii is the proof of that. 99% taked on motion controls 1% utlised it well becuase they thought about how to use it as a primary thought and not an after thought when game was finished.

What is actually put out on a system is not a reflection of its potential, Potential refers to what something capable of being, not of what it becomes. Now put in context, I personally believe the Vita has the potential to be a far better system then the 3DS, this is becuase I believe its hardware can allow the creation of better games. Whether developers realise this potential is irrelevant to my point.

Now put any favouritsm aside, do you not believe that the Vita would be a better home for most games? I do, but you don't have to agree with me.

Games I think would benefit more from Vita's hardware then the 3DS's: Kid icarus, Residet Evil Revelations, OOT, Kingdom hearts, Monster Hunter 4, the pokemon franchise, Nintendogs, New super mario bros, Super mario 3D, any FInal fantasy games games and most RPGs, Any metroid prime title.... I could go on forever, All arcade style game.  The point is, I would trade in dual screen controls (very few games actually use it other then to show a map) and 3D (which I don't like) and replace it with comfortable, dual analouge stick controls, better graphics/physics/AI and ability to view them on a 5'' Oled display.  You may favour 3DS's features more, but hopefully you will see how one system may have more potential then another.

But of course I'm a gamer and so I will go to where ever the games are, but because of the above, I hope most big 3rd franchises (final fantasy, monster hunter etc) and new IPs (especially JRPGs) come to the Vita. And as I'm a Zelda and Pokemon fan, I'll likely pick up the 3DS when a new entry in either one of those franchises arrive for the system. 



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Araknie said:

Are you for real? XD 

I'm just lolling right now because Nintendo DS was out for so many year, that i get now this thread i out just to have fun. Ok have fun guys. XD

? The numbers are right there in the post you replied to. If you want to argue them, there are things that can be brought up like these being lifetime numbers versus the 3DS only being out for a year, and I also mentioned in another post that generally the Nintendo curves of late see the West trend 1 year later than Japan, in favor of an opposing PoV. I don't see what's funny. I just get the feeling you haven't taken the time to think about any of this and are just here to anti-troll, and it kind of makes you the one that's killing sound exchange. (honestly)

Also, We would need to compare the DS' US and Jap trends against the 3DS' US and Jap trends to reach more significant conclusions, because Japan may be doing exceptionally well with 3DS thanks to the great price and heavy software support.



teigaga said:
MDMAlliance said:
One reason I think is that Japan likes Nintendo more than America does. Another thing is that I think here in North America, people are more likely to blindly support the system with better specs and write off the other system as a failure, without even considering the systems capabilities. This means "PS Vita is better in every way, 3DS sucks because the PS Vita is so much stronger and the PSP is probably stronger too." I've seen it everywhere and lots of people in person think that, too. This group may be relatively small in comparison to the whole community of gamers, but it definitely seems more prevalent here.

I also agree that localization of games should occur more often, as well as globalized releases that it seems Luigi's Mansion will be getting. I think those promote sales, as well as special bundles and designs for the 3DS.


Vita does have more potential as a gaming system :)

No, it doesn't. The only thing Vita adds to games is more polygons/cost. Same old, same old. The 3DS adds 3D. It adds uniqueness. It adds an entire style of and method of playing games that simply isn't possible on VIta.



lilbroex said:
teigaga said:
MDMAlliance said:
One reason I think is that Japan likes Nintendo more than America does. Another thing is that I think here in North America, people are more likely to blindly support the system with better specs and write off the other system as a failure, without even considering the systems capabilities. This means "PS Vita is better in every way, 3DS sucks because the PS Vita is so much stronger and the PSP is probably stronger too." I've seen it everywhere and lots of people in person think that, too. This group may be relatively small in comparison to the whole community of gamers, but it definitely seems more prevalent here.

I also agree that localization of games should occur more often, as well as globalized releases that it seems Luigi's Mansion will be getting. I think those promote sales, as well as special bundles and designs for the 3DS.


Vita does have more potential as a gaming system :)

No, it doesn't. The only thing Vita adds to games is more polygons/cost. Same old, same old. The 3DS adds 3D. It adds uniqueness. It adds an entire style of and method of playing games that simply isn't possible on VIta.

Well I personally don't value 3D and although the DS saw some cool aplications for the dual screen, very few of them actual appealed to me. But now alot of those same experiences can be replicated the Vita's touch screen. I just feel like the vast majority of games I want to play on the 3DS would be better on the Vita, what 3DS titles do you play that you feel can't be done on the vIta and do you think they would be worse?



Something´s wrong here. 3DS is a fenomenon in Japan, for sure, it doesn´t sell so well in the west but still it´s the best selling handheld right now. In the USA its weekly sales are superior even by PSV and PSP combined! So not every western consumer either care or is aware of technical specs.
We have to agree, though, that in Japan the offering of 3DS games is way better than in the West. But there´s some blame in the western audiences too, because Japan loves strategy/rpg/simulation games that doesn´t appeal to consumers here. Why didn´t they released Prof Layton, MH3G, Fire Emblem in the west on the go, like Capcom did with RE: revelations or Konami´s MGS:SE ? It wasnt just for localization, it´s just that they know those kind of games don´t usually sell well in the West and opted to wait a formation of a better consumer base before lauching them.



TruckOSaurus said:
MDMAlliance said:
One reason I think is that Japan likes Nintendo more than America does. Another thing is that I think here in North America, people are more likely to blindly support the system with better specs and write off the other system as a failure, without even considering the systems capabilities. This means "PS Vita is better in every way, 3DS sucks because the PS Vita is so much stronger and the PSP is probably stronger too." I've seen it everywhere and lots of people in person think that, too. This group may be relatively small in comparison to the whole community of gamers, but it definitely seems more prevalent here.

I also agree that localization of games should occur more often, as well as globalized releases that it seems Luigi's Mansion will be getting. I think those promote sales, as well as special bundles and designs for the 3DS.

This can't be the case since PSVita is doing worst than 3DS in North America (and pretty much everwhere).

It can have a small effect. I considered buying a 3DS once they cut the price but I was far more attracted to the hardware of the Vita, so i put off the purchase. If by the end of the year sony still have a weak line-up then I will go ahead and purchase the 3DS, but I'm sure their are other people in my position who haven't bought a 3DS becaus they're waiting to see if the Vita will deliver on its potential. TGS may be sony's last chance for me.