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Darc Requiem on 27 June 2012
Khuutra said:
Darc Requiem said:

Tacking Deus Ex endings onto Mass Effect 3 in the last 15 minutes is a thematic failure. It's contrary to theme the series carried up until that point. It would be like slapping Gladiators ending onto the end Shrek.

That isn't what Mass Effect is about, though. Shit, each game has different themes, and each game has many themes. THe options presented to you at the end of ME3, especially in the extended cut, are not contrary to the themes of the game.

The only theme from the series represented in the endings was destroying the Reapers. Control was frowned upon up until the end. Synthesis doesn't make a lick of sense period. Ii is completely opposite of the theme of various species working together inspite of their differences. Synthetic life doesn't have DNA to alter. Just because everyone is "the same" doesn't mean they'll agree on anything. To top it off Shepard jumping into a beam and adding his/her energy  power to it initiates this bullshit change on a galaxy wide level.



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Khuutra on 27 June 2012
Darc Requiem said:
Khuutra said:

That isn't what Mass Effect is about, though. Shit, each game has different themes, and each game has many themes. THe options presented to you at the end of ME3, especially in the extended cut, are not contrary to the themes of the game.

The only theme from the series represented in the endings was destroying the Reapers. Control was frowned upon up until the end. Synthesis doesn't make a lick of sense period. Ii is completely opposite of the theme of various species working together inspite of their differences. Synthetic life doesn't have DNA to alter. Just because everyone is "the same" doesn't mean they'll agree on anything. To top it off Shepard jumping into a beam and adding his/her energy  power to it initiates this bullshit change on a galaxy wide level.

Choice is a theme that runs through every game in the series.



TeddostheFireKing on 27 June 2012
brendude13 said:

I played the first one but didn't get into it, so I didn't want to spoil the ME3 ending for myself, but now I've given up on the series I want to know. I'm going to have a guess at what happens, are the Mass Effect relays destroyed along with the reapers?

In the original ending, the Mass relay's blew up (like in the Arrival DLC), but in the new ending, they edited it so they're only heavily damaged :)

BenVTrigger said:

Lol u guys defending Bioware are funny. Please explain these massive plot holes to me

 

1. Why does The starchild tell you organics and synthetics will always war even though u just united the Geth and Quarians

2. Why do the Reapers bring the Citadel to Earth and then create a convienant portal strait to their off button so just anyone can go up there and do what they want as long as u get passed them. 

3. How does magic pixie space dust sprinkle across the universe and magically out of thin air create organic tissue in synethetics and synethtic tissue in organics.

4. Why and how would the cruciable use Shepards body to creat the magic pixie dust whenever whoever created the citadel had zero idea shepard would ever exist

5. Why do you ever oppose Saren or the Illusive man when they were both actually 100% right and neither were in any way evil. Saren wanted Synthesis and The Illusive Man wanted to control the Reapers. Both options are considered ok at the end of the game

6. Why does Shepard argue vehemently with Illusive man on citadel that its impossible and wrong to control reapers, but then mere seconds later the random starchild whom hes never met comes out of nowhere and tells him its ok shepard blindly believes him and asks no questions.

Im just getting started would u like more?

1). I didn't like that part as well, but if you see the "I don't want to choose" option, the Star child gets Harbinger's vocie so it was really just him all along trying to get his point of view across.

2). lol I don't know why its designed that way, but taking the citadel to Earth does make a bit of sense, just because its the heart of reaper controlled territory.

3). It's magic :P

4). Magic again :P

5). You opposed them because they were controlled by the reapers, because of that they could not of actually done anything (Star child tell's you this).

6). He can ask questions now, but yeah it is a bit weird :/

Hope that helps :)



Munkeh111 on 29 June 2012
BenVTrigger said:

Lol u guys defending Bioware are funny. Please explain these massive plot holes to me

 

1. Why does The starchild tell you organics and synthetics will always war even though u just united the Geth and Quarians

2. Why do the Reapers bring the Citadel to Earth and then create a convienant portal strait to their off button so just anyone can go up there and do what they want as long as u get passed them.

3. How does magic pixie space dust sprinkle across the universe and magically out of thin air create organic tissue in synethetics and synethtic tissue in organics.

4. Why and how would the cruciable use Shepards body to creat the magic pixie dust whenever whoever created the citadel had zero idea shepard would ever exist

5. Why do you ever oppose Saren or the Illusive man when they were both actually 100% right and neither were in any way evil. Saren wanted Synthesis and The Illusive Man wanted to control the Reapers. Both options are considered ok at the end of the game

6. Why does Shepard argue vehemently with Illusive man on citadel that its impossible and wrong to control reapers, but then mere seconds later the random starchild whom hes never met comes out of nowhere and tells him its ok shepard blindly believes him and asks no questions.

Im just getting started would u like more?

 

1. Because it probalby won't actually be a long lasting peace, though I still odn't really like it. Howevere, it is adreassed by the EC a bit

2.Now this is just a case of you not paying any attention at all to the game. The reapers harvest civilisations to create new reapers to preserve their civilisations. The  portal is there to help them transport the humans there to be processed and turned into reapers

3. How can you travel faster than the speed of light? We can't explain element zero, and the darm matter stuff mentioned in the ending

4. I think it just requires organic tissue, not necessarily Shep's

5. Because they were being controlled by the Reapers. All Saren was actually doing was opening th eportal for the reapers to quickly return from deep space. As for TiM, he wanted to use the reaprs to destroy the non-human races, he was interested in making the humans the dominant race

6. My Shep didn't control the reapers, he destroyed them... And he does ask more questions this time. The main problem with TiM's plan was that Shep did not believe that the reapers could truly be controlled

I hope that helps deal with your issues. I don't really know how to do spoiler text, so I had to type it all hidden, so there might be some typos