First of all, he claimed infamous didn't have some of those things, when clearly they did. Most games on the HD consoles have them too. What does that say about their library? It says that most of their games are very similar. To be fair, not all of the uncharted's have multiplayer, and half of the Infamous games don't have UGC but you are missing the point. The gameplay is extremely similar, which is what we are arguing. He acts like the fact that one is a superhero shows they are extremely different when i would argue that an ape is more different than a plumber than a superhero is from Indiana Jones lol. It seems to me like you are focusing on such minor cosmetic differences that don't alter fundamental gameplay here.

1. No. You are wrong. Shooting really is all you can do in Infamous. What are you going to do? Explore? Mess around with the tacked on UGC content? Hardly worth you time. Side missions are cool, but Uncharted has more than enough chapters as is.

2.) Well, 1/4 of the franchise you didn't have to climb buildings. Good for you sport. Well for the rest, you did, and boy was the climbing exactly like Uncharted. And I mean, exactly. I platinumed both and if you want proof, check out the trophy league for my name.

3.) No you can't. Pretty much every power Cole has, Drake has a weapon for lol. You just are shocked(pun!) by the lightning. Rockets? Done. Grenades? Done. Fast shock? Machine gun. Slow powerful shock? Shotgun. Blast wave and Electrical storm type moves? Give you that one. For the most part, it translates to Uncharted's weapons lol. I don't see how you don't see that.

4.) I'm glad you didn't even bother to really defend sony's choice to sell demos.

5.) Lastly, I'm not Jesus. I can't heal the blind. If you haven't seen the numerous trilogies, then you are blind. I will post a few horizontally so my post will not be too long. (just off the top of my head). I will separate the ones sony did and the ones others did btw so you can't claim BS when I post it because you made it seem like you wanted the entire this gen by saying this gen. As for comparison of those without trilogies, I don't know? Too many games fail to reach any relevant amount of sales and too many are released for me to notice them all.

Sony: Resistance, Uncharted, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank, and I'm hesitant to put Killzone and Infamous because while I potentially see another Killzone, it may be ps4 and Infamous' ending was rather ambiguous but it implied that the franchise may go in some form after the good ending but rather or not that will be for the ps3 is also unknown.

Everyone else(the actual list would probably be longer): Lost Planet, Gears of War, Forza, Assassins Creed, Modern Warfare, Bioshock, Halo, Mass Effect, Saint Row, Fable, and others but these are just the ones off the top of my head.

"Shooting really is all you can do in Infamous."

lol and with that point i'm done debating uncharted/infamous as you obviously don't intend to make sense

i mean't sony games so what is that? 6? ok lbp, heavy rain, starhawk, gran turismo, the last guardian, etc and thats not counting killzone,infamous, move and psn games

my point was just that to say that the majority of games were trilogies may not be accurate

If you don't want to argue, fine, I can't make you. The point I was making, which you never refuted was that the gameplay for Uncharted and Infamous are extremely similar. They both handle the relatively the same with minor quirks that differentiate them, but in reality, don't really alter the gameplay. That being said, i was stupid to limit myself to trilogies because even though there are many, there are more sequels. They actually prove my point too though. Sony doens't need multiple franchises because they produce sequels(whether they spiritual or not) to many of their games. Starhawk and warhawk. LBP and LBP 2. You don't see me crying foul about LBP Kart Racing playing similarly to MNR do we? You see what you want to see.

" which you never refuted "

actually i did several times but as i said i can tell when i'm wasting my time i won't bother to prolong a pointless debate

"Sony doens't need multiple franchises"

i like the approach of having many franchises but thats me

"You see what you want to see."

what do you mean? when did i deny that sony produces sequals? 

You didn't deny they made multiple sequels. That's an easy question lol. You see what you want to see because you say one thing that applies to Nintendo and Sony, but refuse that it applies to sony. Both companies have multiple franchises. No denying that. One of them uses them than throws them away while the other supports them for multiple gens. What did you expect? This debate is over toys. Of course it would be pointless.

ok what have i said applies to nintendo but not sony? i honestly don't remember what you're talking about

"many "core" nintendo franchises play the same to me - ( mario, dk, kirby etc ) run from one side of a stage to another and jump over obstacles on the way...

try playing uncharted, little big planet and gow the same and see how far you get..."

Hmmmmm....go to page 7 to see your post. You are very misleading there. You tried to make it seem as iff all Nintendo games were the same and that all sony games are unique! That couldn't be farther from the truth considering that both have multiple games and franchises within the same genre that played similarly. That's why I brought up Infamous and Uncharted and others brought up Sly and Ratchet but I didn't use that because I would prefer to talk about games I actually played and I have yet to play a sly cooper game. Did you forget that post?