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These are sell-in numbers and I think VGChartz's original numbers are likely far more accurate (possibly even overtracked for some) than the new ones. Sell-in is what they sell to retailers, sell-through is what a customer buys from a retailer. We've seen plenty of games that had sell-in numbers that were in excess of million+ more than the actual sell-through, sometimes even 2 million+ and upwards.



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AndrewWK said:
TrevDaRev said:
Nice to see the adjustments. GOW: Ascension to be a 6+ million seller?


No it will be the least selling God of War game on the Playstation 3.

-Because its a Prequel

-Released at the end of a live cycle

-The least critically acclaimed

I say it will sell 3mill copies and an average score of 80-85



You've a good argument with the fact it's a prequel, and the fact it's launching late into the gen, but I think 3mill is just too low. God Of War III was the highest selling of the lot, the franchise grew from last gen to this gen, Ascension has a lot going for it in that regard. Plus it has multiplayer, which is looking like a lot of fun, multiplayer in theory should lengthen it's legs in the long run.

AndrewWK said:
TrevDaRev said:
Nice to see the adjustments. GOW: Ascension to be a 6+ million seller?


No it will be the least selling God of War game on the Playstation 3.

-Because its a Prequel

-Released at the end of a live cycle

-The least critically acclaimed

I say it will sell 3mill copies and an average score of 80-85

God of War: Chains of Olympus, a successful prequel, made by SSM + Ready at Dawn and scored in the 90-95 range, sold around 3 million on the PSP when it launched on a very small install base, when GoW wasn't as huge and the platform is plagued by piracy.

God of War: Ascension; The a successor to the multi-award winning game that scored in the 90-95 range, sold 5+ million in 2 years even though it launched when the PS3 install base was half of what it is now, released in March, had terrible marketing and miniscule bundling...  God of War: Ascension is launching under much better circumstances and Sony might actually advertise and massively bundle the game like they did to help Uncharted 3 sell well. God of War: Ascension will be biggest GoW yet, 3 million lifetime is just daft.

Firstly, none of the 3 main games scored less than the 90-95 range and are in fact the top 3 highest rated and best-selling games in their genre of all time so why would God of War: Ascension score significantly less when it's going to be the best and most content rich God of War yet? It'll score in the 90-95 range.

Secondly, God of War II launched on the PS2 after PS3 had already been out over a year, that still sold 4.2 million copies and the franchise is much bigger now than it was then.

Your predictions are unwise to say the least.

What I think:

- Its average score will be in the 90-95 range (like it matters now that GoW is so huge, millions of fans will buy it regardless).

- It will sell 1.75-2 million first week, 3 million in the first 10 weeks, 4-4.25 million by the end of the first year, 1 million in 2014, 650k in 2015 and 450k in 2016 then about half every year after that until it stops selling. God of War III will reach about 6+ million (It's only been out just over 2 years and it's at 5.2m, another 800K + is very possible) and God of War: Ascension will reach about 6.5 million.



It's impressive, a couple of years ago everyone would say how sony has great games but none of them sell on par or even close to other franchises like Gears of War, super mario, etc.. GT5 is approaching 8 Million copies sold, and GOW III has sold well over 5 million copies to date.. that is damn impressive.. heck Uncharted 2 is probably going to top 6 million soon, and Uncharted 3 is probably right behind it.. Sony's first party sales have actually grown almost SIGNIFICANTLY compared to last gen, when they had the dominant console with playstation 2.. No one ever expected GT5 to approaching 8 and maybe reach 9-10 million copies by the time GT5 stops selling, and no one expected GOW III to sell even half as much as GOW II, heck most people called animal crossing on the wii a bigger ip than god of war III(soriku among others.. on this site..) based on the sales of the games on previous nintendo systems.. but during that time, God of war I/II barely sold more than 2-3 million copies according to VGC.. turns out it's as big of a franchise as sony claims it is based on sales alone..



 

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leo-j said:
It's impressive, a couple of years ago everyone would say how sony has great games but none of them sell on par or even close to other franchises like Gears of War, super mario, etc.. GT5 is approaching 8 Million copies sold, and GOW III has sold well over 5 million copies to date.. that is damn impressive.. heck Uncharted 2 is probably going to top 6 million soon, and Uncharted 3 is probably right behind it.. Sony's first party sales have actually grown almost SIGNIFICANTLY compared to last gen, when they had the dominant console with playstation 2.. No one ever expected GT5 to approaching 8 and maybe reach 9-10 million copies by the time GT5 stops selling, and no one expected GOW III to sell even half as much as GOW II, heck most people called animal crossing on the wii a bigger ip than god of war III(soriku among others.. on this site..) based on the sales of the games on previous nintendo systems.. but during that time, God of war I/II barely sold more than 2-3 million copies according to VGC.. turns out it's as big of a franchise as sony claims it is based on sales alone..


yea but trolls will always say ps3 games dont sell. this is why sony have been concentrating so much on their 1st party. to establish them more cause next gen 1st parties will be more important. there are hardly any 3rd party exclusive games anymore. oh and im glad no one bothered to reply to legend11



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JustThatGamer said:
AndrewWK said:
TrevDaRev said:
Nice to see the adjustments. GOW: Ascension to be a 6+ million seller?


No it will be the least selling God of War game on the Playstation 3.

-Because its a Prequel

-Released at the end of a live cycle

-The least critically acclaimed

I say it will sell 3mill copies and an average score of 80-85

God of War: Chains of Olympus, a successful prequel, made by SSM + Ready at Dawn and scored in the 90-95 range, sold around 3 million on the PSP when it launched on a very small install base, when GoW wasn't as huge and the platform is plagued by piracy.

God of War: Ascension; The a successor to the multi-award winning game that scored in the 90-95 range, sold 5+ million in 2 years even though it launched when the PS3 install base was half of what it is now, released in March, had terrible marketing and miniscule bundling...  God of War: Ascension is launching under much better circumstances and Sony might actually advertise and massively bundle the game like they did to help Uncharted 3 sell well. God of War: Ascension will be biggest GoW yet, 3 million lifetime is just daft.

Firstly, none of the 3 main games scored less than the 90-95 range and are in fact the top 3 highest rated and best-selling games in their genre of all time so why would God of War: Ascension score significantly less when it's going to be the best and most content rich God of War yet? It'll score in the 90-95 range.

Secondly, God of War II launched on the PS2 after PS3 had already been out over a year, that still sold 4.2 million copies and the franchise is much bigger now than it was then.

Your predictions are unwise to say the least.

What I think:

- Its average score will be in the 90-95 range (like it matters now that GoW is so huge, millions of fans will buy it regardless).

- It will sell 1.75-2 million first week, 3 million in the first 10 weeks, 4-4.25 million by the end of the first year, 1 million in 2014, 650k in 2015 and 450k in 2016 then about half every year after that until it stops selling. God of War III will reach about 6+ million (It's only been out just over 2 years and it's at 5.2m, another 800K + is very possible) and God of War: Ascension will reach about 6.5 million.

First of all, God of War: Ascension won´t have the most content of all GoW games. It will have a 5-8 hour main campaign (like the first). The God of War director has confirmed that. The second thing is a lot people are sceptic about the MP, its ok if it is there but I won´t buy God of War because of the Multiplayer. It wont have the challenges like all the other God of War games. There are a lot of God of War fans (like myself) who where not that impressed by the gameplay demo presented at the E3. Why? because it is the sam as all its predecessors where. And you might know that the last released God of War games scored less then 90. Ghost of Sparta 86 and Origins 84. But if you are convinced that it will score more then 90, we can bet on it.

 

And thinking that Ascension will sell more then 6.5mill is pure Fanboysm. We could argue about it selling more then 4 mill copies, but 6 mill is just ridiculous. And again if you are so sure, we can bet.



Looks like there was an error that reverted God of War III sales figures back to the pre-adjustment numbers..

Just a heads up...



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Looks like there was an error that reverted God of War III sales figures back to the pre-adjustment numbers..

Just a heads up...


Its because they didnt change first week or yearly figures. VGZ need to update first week sales which were closer to 1.5m.



shanbcn said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Looks like there was an error that reverted God of War III sales figures back to the pre-adjustment numbers..

Just a heads up...


Its because they didnt change first week or yearly figures. VGZ need to update first week sales which were closer to 1.5m.


ow do you know they were close to 1.5m? i remember checking for sales data before they announced anything at e3 and didnt find anything but sony saying god of war 3 reached 1 million in just a couple of days. do you have any offical statement or something? but thats just huge!! 1.5 first weak!! hopefully god of war ascension can beat that 



bananaking21 said:
shanbcn said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Looks like there was an error that reverted God of War III sales figures back to the pre-adjustment numbers..

Just a heads up...


Its because they didnt change first week or yearly figures. VGZ need to update first week sales which were closer to 1.5m.


ow do you know they were close to 1.5m? i remember checking for sales data before they announced anything at e3 and didnt find anything but sony saying god of war 3 reached 1 million in just a couple of days. do you have any offical statement or something? but thats just huge!! 1.5 first weak!! hopefully god of war ascension can beat that 

In the current figures we have, God of War III is 150k short for March according to NPD.