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DirtyP2002 said:
FattyDingDong said:
wait, is the 360 currently banned in Germany?


no it is not.

well, I'm not a lawer, but I guess it technically is banned, but that won't be enforced until the law suit in US is decided (and the appeal suit and so on)

that's what I gathered from the german reports I read on that matter



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fillet said:
Scoobes said:
These things always end up in a settlement of some kind. It's a general waste of time and money for both companies and nothing ever comes of it (for consumers at least).

Patent laws really need looking over.


QFT, except the last bit, it's all politics and how the ecosystem stays tight in the business world. Sue everyone, everyone sues you, come to agreement hopefully with some concessions in your favour, move on.

That's it.

People don't seem to grasp that this isn't the same as taking your next door neighbour to court for damaging your property. That could or could not go to a judgement.

 

This will  NEVER go to a judgement,

 

Hence, it isn't news at all and the only reason it is news is because stupid people don't realise how this works and sneaker reporters flog it as news to the idiots, when in fact the "news" is only of any relevence to shareholders.

My comment about patent laws was a general one, not specifically to do with these kind of scenarios. It's more the patent trolls or the fact that patents get filed over the most mundane of things. If only there was a way to cut the crap.



deskpro2k3 said:
Jereel Hunter said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

I know there are a lot of fans of Microsoft in here but I have to admit that the idea that Americans would be driven to take a good look at the PS3 is kind of grin enducing. I am sorry. xD


You're suggesting that the 360 is way ahead of the PS3 here because Americans haven't taken a good look at it. Nothing could be further from the truth. I, and every American I know expected the PS3 to be #1 here before the generation began. Taking a good look at both consoles lead to the PS3's fall.


This is interesting. How many Americans do you know? I mean when this gen started I know many Americans who went through 2-3 xbox 360. Myself included. Did we take a good look at the very start?

oh, certainly. Do you remember the very start? The 360 had way more games, and far superior multiplats, and the only viable online. as fantastic as the PS3 is now, it took 18 months before its games catalogue could be objectively considered vs the 360.



crissindahouse said:
Jereel Hunter said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

I know there are a lot of fans of Microsoft in here but I have to admit that the idea that Americans would be driven to take a good look at the PS3 is kind of grin enducing. I am sorry. xD


You're suggesting that the 360 is way ahead of the PS3 here because Americans haven't taken a good look at it. Nothing could be further from the truth. I, and every American I know expected the PS3 to be #1 here before the generation began. Taking a good look at both consoles lead to the PS3's fall.

i just wonder if he hopes that sony and nintendo will get a ban in japan, too. because they are much worse if it comes to that point and if they would have to take a good look at the 360, now this would be something funny.


Indeed. Microsoft went out of their way at the beginning of this generation to buy exclusive games that Japanese gamers would want - but Japan is the country that truely does have the bias when it comes to consoles.



kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
Some of the posts in here.... Lol.

Cringeworthy and embarrassing in their naivety. Nothing is happening, sorry to burst bubbles ladies.


Wishful thinking on your part.

Something is happening. Either a sales ban or Microsoft pays up those royalty fees.

This is a pretty big deal. 

It's about as big a deal as e Sony LG thing last year.  Nothing much will happen. Like I said..... Sucks for you, I know you really really want this to be a big deal.


A possible sales ban 360 isn't a big deal? Ok......



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Lafiel said:
DirtyP2002 said:
FattyDingDong said:
wait, is the 360 currently banned in Germany?


no it is not.

well, I'm not a lawer, but I guess it technically is banned, but that won't be enforced until the law suit in US is decided (and the appeal suit and so on)

that's what I gathered from the german reports I read on that matter


ehm Why should a German judge wait for a decision by an American judge?



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kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
Some of the posts in here.... Lol.

Cringeworthy and embarrassing in their naivety. Nothing is happening, sorry to burst bubbles ladies.


Wishful thinking on your part.

Something is happening. Either a sales ban or Microsoft pays up those royalty fees.

This is a pretty big deal. 

It's about as big a deal as e Sony LG thing last year.  Nothing much will happen. Like I said..... Sucks for you, I know you really really want this to be a big deal.


A possible sales ban 360 isn't a big deal? Ok......


not if there is no chance of it happening

exact same thing happened with PS3... how did that turn out?


LG vs. Sony
Motorola vs. Microosft

2 different cases. Completely seperate.
Sony ended up winning, so if Microsofts is lucky, they'll win as well. But I can't tell the future. Can you?



DirtyP2002 said:
Lafiel said:
DirtyP2002 said:
FattyDingDong said:
wait, is the 360 currently banned in Germany?


no it is not.

well, I'm not a lawer, but I guess it technically is banned, but that won't be enforced until the law suit in US is decided (and the appeal suit and so on)

that's what I gathered from the german reports I read on that matter


ehm Why should a German judge wait for a decision by an American judge?

from what I understood there was a verdict that Motorola couldn't start this law suit in germany prior to it .. and well they did it anyway

but whatever, the situation is pretty complicated ;) and in the end there won't be any effect on us consumers anyway



Motorola is playing with fire. Microsoft has one of the largest patent portfolios in the tech arena, wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft responds in kind.

And if the Xbox gets banned? Microsoft has 10's of Billions in the bank, the Xbox isn't even a bread-and-butter product, it would hurt the financials a bit, but nothing in comparison to having Office or Windows banned, this is why it's important for a large company to diversify so they can weather such storms.

Plus, people would still pay for Xbox Live!, games and accessories, just the consoles sales rate would come to a halt.




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Lafiel said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Lafiel said:
DirtyP2002 said:
FattyDingDong said:
wait, is the 360 currently banned in Germany?


no it is not.

well, I'm not a lawer, but I guess it technically is banned, but that won't be enforced until the law suit in US is decided (and the appeal suit and so on)

that's what I gathered from the german reports I read on that matter


ehm Why should a German judge wait for a decision by an American judge?

from what I understood there was a verdict that Motorola couldn't start this law suit in germany prior to it .. and well they did it anyway

but whatever, the situation is pretty complicated ;) and in the end there won't be any effect on us consumers anyway

well in german it's Moto can choose to ban 360,not must

but since it's all about money i don't think they will do that