A certain group of people would have still thought that it was lame because Mario games were on it.

The price would be above the X360 and thus stopping a lot of potential casual buyers (who previously owned a PS2) from coming aboard. The games' gameplay would pretty much stay the same, so the only noticeable difference would be the graphics.

For those reasons I actually think another question would be more interesting: What if Playstation 3 wasn't HD? Would its games/gameplay be enough to catch the audience who decided to buy a Wii or maybe even the X360?

Sorry, I'm not trying to derail the thread. Just raising a relevant question

DarkTemplar said: Well this is a good question... Four things that may have happened: 1) Less first party titles, I mean a good Wii title takes 1.5 perhaps 2 years to develop, but a HD good title needs 2.5 perhaps 3 years of development. 2) Less PS360's consoles sold, Wii HD could have had better third party support so some of Wii owners that wanted to play games like assassins creed wouldn't had to buy a PC or HD console. 3) Some small budget projects like No More Heroes and Mad World would never have happened. 4) Less Wii's sold because Wii price tag was one of the most important things of its bussines model.

So overall a less successful generation, because all three consoles sold less. Yes, I agree. You have a point about the development-time and -costs. Also I would add, that if the three would have been more similar, some people wouldn't have been interested in console-gaming.

IIIIITHE1IIIII said: The price would be above the X360 and thus stopping a lot of potential casual buyers (who previously owned a PS2) from coming aboard. The games' gameplay would pretty much stay the same, so the only noticeable difference would be the graphics. For those reasons I actually think another question would be more interesting: What if Playstation 3 wasn't HD? Would its games/gameplay be enough to catch the audience who decided to buy a Wii or maybe even the X360? Sorry, I'm not trying to derail the thread. Just raising a relevant question

That's really an interesting question. You should start a thread about it.

Mnementh said: IIIIITHE1IIIII said: The price would be above the X360 and thus stopping a lot of potential casual buyers (who previously owned a PS2) from coming aboard. The games' gameplay would pretty much stay the same, so the only noticeable difference would be the graphics. For those reasons I actually think another question would be more interesting: What if Playstation 3 wasn't HD? Would its games/gameplay be enough to catch the audience who decided to buy a Wii or maybe even the X360? Sorry, I'm not trying to derail the thread. Just raising a relevant question That's really an interesting question. You should start a thread about it.

Thanks! I think I should wait for a while though to not steal attention from this thread

What if the CPU would have been 25% faster the GPU 15% and the RAM 128 MB instead of 88 MB.

I always wondered how Wii Games would look like today.

You know, the questions you guys raise are really good. The conditions of my fabulations aren't well expressed.... :(

Okay, so let me be a tad more clear. In this fabulation, the HD-Wii would still have motion controls, would still focus on casual gaming. It would still be able to sport SD visuals if needed.

The only difference would be that it would also offer a traditional controller (for certain companies really wanting it), something far better than the CCPro. I know the cube was supported by the Wii, I have a jap white Wii-model GC controller (smacking new). But envision something that was wireless like the Wiimote, but based off the Cube controller's design, in other words a bluetooth GC controller with minor improvements (like the shoulder buttons and c-stick going more mainstream design).

Imagine this console had a solid online infrastructure.

As for price, what if Nintendo went loss-leading and sold it at the same price as the Wii? Assume something less powerful than the 360, something in line with PS2 to Xbox weaker.

happydolphin said: You know, the questions you guys raise are really good. The conditions of my fabulations aren't well expressed.... :( Okay, so let me be a tad more clear. In this fabulation, the HD-Wii would still have motion controls, would still focus on casual gaming. It would still be able to sport SD visuals if needed. The only difference would be that it would also offer a traditional controller (for certain companies really wanting it), something far better than the CCPro. I know the cube was supported by the Wii, I have a jap white Wii-model GC controller (smacking new). But envision something that was wireless like the Wiimote, but based off the Cube controller's design, in other words a bluetooth GC controller with minor improvements (like the shoulder buttons and c-stick going more mainstream design). Imagine this console had a solid online infrastructure. As for price, what if Nintendo went loss-leading and sold it at the same price as the Wii? Assume something less powerful than the 360, something in line with PS2 to Xbox weaker.

I would guess it would do just as good, possible better since it's HD. 3rd parties wouldn't have their excuse of "The Wii doesn't have HD and we're too lazy to re-configure our games." I wouldn't expect it to sell too much over what the Wii has now. It might be at 100 Million right now with the way you described it.

NintendoPie said: I would guess it would do just as good, possible better since it's HD. 3rd parties wouldn't have their excuse of "The Wii doesn't have HD and we're too lazy to re-configure our games." I wouldn't expect it to sell too much over what the Wii has now. It might be at 100 Million right now with the way you described it.

Okay, my fabulation is much clearer now, I'll add it to OP.

why does it matter? what if's are provoking.