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RolStoppable said:
Gilgamesh said:
Some of you are missing my point, Ya Nintendos first party games are ALWAYS going to be great to the Nintendo fans, they have one of the best first party games. They can come out with a console that sells 15 million WW and it'll still probably have over 10 games that sell over 10 million. It's just the way it works with Nintendo, there like the MAC of gaming, if it says Mario, Wii, or any other popular Nintendo character or console in the title Nintendo fans will flock to it.

But my point is as a leading console has it performed the way a leading gaming console generally perform? No Nintendo did there own thing. They stuck with there first party and everything went great for the first few years, but eventually the many big exciting games released on the X360 and PS3 and making it more enticing. So ya Nintendo dropped the ball, they relied to much on first party, which is fine, it pleases all the Nintendo fans, but as for all the other gamer's it kept them away.

You are correct, the Wii didn't perform like a leading console. You also correctly note that third party support is the missing piece in the puzzle. But then you turn around and say that Nintendo dropped the ball. Why?

Third parties didn't make the games, so they dropped the ball.

You can talk about it being Nintendo's fault for not courting third parties all you want, but when third parties went on record numerous times to declare or imply that the Wii is not a real gaming machine, then it's clear that there was no way to convince them to make Wii games.

It is Nintendo's responsibility to get 3rd parties to make games for their console. The Wii is extremely under-powered, this is pretty much the only reason most of the big 3rd party games aren't on the system.



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ASStronaut said:
Gilgamesh said:
Some of you are missing my point, Ya Nintendos first party games are ALWAYS going to be great to the Nintendo fans, they have one of the best first party games. They can come out with a console that sells 15 million WW and it'll still probably have over 10 games that sell over 10 million. It's just the way it works with Nintendo, there like the MAC of gaming, if it says Mario, Wii, or any other popular Nintendo character or console in the title Nintendo fans will flock to it.

But my point is as a leading console has it performed the way a leading gaming console generally perform? No Nintendo did there own thing. They stuck with there first party and everything went great for the first few years, but eventually the many big exciting games released on the X360 and PS3 and making it more enticing. So ya Nintendo dropped the ball, they relied to much on first party, which is fine, it pleases all the Nintendo fans, but as for all the other gamer's it kept them away.

Your original question was, "Has the Wii become one of the biggest disappointments in gaming?"

"One of the biggest disappointments in gaming?" How long have you been gaming?

Nintendo Virtual Boy

Sega 32x

Playstation Move

Playstation 3

Atari Jaguar

Panasonic 3DO

Sega DreamCast

Atari Lynx

Nokia Ngage

Microsoft Kinect

All bigger disappointments in gaming than the Wii. I could go on and on with that list too.

How is the PS3 a disappointment? 1st party games are better than on the PS2 IMO. 
3rd Party games are also better than ever.

What are you going by here? Sales or Game library? Since you included Kinect, I'm assuming you mean game library which brings me back to PS3, it shouldn't be on your list.



VGKing said:
ASStronaut said:
Gilgamesh said:
Some of you are missing my point, Ya Nintendos first party games are ALWAYS going to be great to the Nintendo fans, they have one of the best first party games. They can come out with a console that sells 15 million WW and it'll still probably have over 10 games that sell over 10 million. It's just the way it works with Nintendo, there like the MAC of gaming, if it says Mario, Wii, or any other popular Nintendo character or console in the title Nintendo fans will flock to it.

But my point is as a leading console has it performed the way a leading gaming console generally perform? No Nintendo did there own thing. They stuck with there first party and everything went great for the first few years, but eventually the many big exciting games released on the X360 and PS3 and making it more enticing. So ya Nintendo dropped the ball, they relied to much on first party, which is fine, it pleases all the Nintendo fans, but as for all the other gamer's it kept them away.

Your original question was, "Has the Wii become one of the biggest disappointments in gaming?"

"One of the biggest disappointments in gaming?" How long have you been gaming?

Nintendo Virtual Boy

Sega 32x

Playstation Move

Playstation 3

Atari Jaguar

Panasonic 3DO

Sega DreamCast

Atari Lynx

Nokia Ngage

Microsoft Kinect

All bigger disappointments in gaming than the Wii. I could go on and on with that list too.

How is the PS3 a disappointment? 1st party games are better than on the PS2 IMO. 
3rd Party games are also better than ever.

What are you going by here? Sales or Game library? Since you included Kinect, I'm assuming you mean game library which brings me back to PS3, it shouldn't be on your list.

PS3 is a disappointment compared to initial expectations and predecessors performance. Thats a fact!

Also, I'm entitled to my opinion.



Wii U Nintendo Network ID, Borode

XBOX Live ID, Borode

ASStronaut said:
VGKing said:
ASStronaut said:
Gilgamesh said:
Some of you are missing my point, Ya Nintendos first party games are ALWAYS going to be great to the Nintendo fans, they have one of the best first party games. They can come out with a console that sells 15 million WW and it'll still probably have over 10 games that sell over 10 million. It's just the way it works with Nintendo, there like the MAC of gaming, if it says Mario, Wii, or any other popular Nintendo character or console in the title Nintendo fans will flock to it.

But my point is as a leading console has it performed the way a leading gaming console generally perform? No Nintendo did there own thing. They stuck with there first party and everything went great for the first few years, but eventually the many big exciting games released on the X360 and PS3 and making it more enticing. So ya Nintendo dropped the ball, they relied to much on first party, which is fine, it pleases all the Nintendo fans, but as for all the other gamer's it kept them away.

Your original question was, "Has the Wii become one of the biggest disappointments in gaming?"

"One of the biggest disappointments in gaming?" How long have you been gaming?

Nintendo Virtual Boy

Sega 32x

Playstation Move

Playstation 3

Atari Jaguar

Panasonic 3DO

Sega DreamCast

Atari Lynx

Nokia Ngage

Microsoft Kinect

All bigger disappointments in gaming than the Wii. I could go on and on with that list too.

How is the PS3 a disappointment? 1st party games are better than on the PS2 IMO. 
3rd Party games are also better than ever.

What are you going by here? Sales or Game library? Since you included Kinect, I'm assuming you mean game library which brings me back to PS3, it shouldn't be on your list.

PS3 is a disappointment compared to initial expectations and predecessors performance. Thats a fact!

Also, I'm entitled to my opinion.

In sales? Sure, that's fact.

Quality of the games? Nope. 



Gilgamesh said:

But my point is as a leading console has it performed the way a leading gaming console generally perform? No Nintendo did there own thing. They stuck with there first party and everything went great for the first few years, but eventually the many big exciting games released on the X360 and PS3 and making it more enticing. So ya Nintendo dropped the ball, they relied to much on first party, which is fine, it pleases all the Nintendo fans, but as for all the other gamer's it kept them away.

That is not the Wii's fault. At the start of the generation most (if not all) of the third party developers where preparing for the launch of the PS3 as it was expected to be the leader again and they were already developing games for the 360 as it came out 1 year before, nobody was expecting the Wii leadership. After they invested a ton of money getting the tools for HD development and saw that the Wii was winning it was just too late to go back, so they stick to their original plan and refuse to take many of its franchises to the Wii.



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Sal.Paradise said:
ASStronaut said:
VGKing said:
ASStronaut said:
Gilgamesh said:

How is the PS3 a disappointment? 1st party games are better than on the PS2 IMO. 
3rd Party games are also better than ever.

What are you going by here? Sales or Game library? Since you included Kinect, I'm assuming you mean game library which brings me back to PS3, it shouldn't be on your list.

PS3 is a disappointment compared to initial expectations and predecessors performance. Thats a fact!

Also, I'm entitled to my opinion.

In sales? Sure, that's fact.

Quality of the games? Nope. 

If you agree with me then why bother replying to my post.



Wii U Nintendo Network ID, Borode

XBOX Live ID, Borode

ASStronaut said:
Sal.Paradise said:
ASStronaut said:
VGKing said:
ASStronaut said:
Gilgamesh said:

How is the PS3 a disappointment? 1st party games are better than on the PS2 IMO. 
3rd Party games are also better than ever.

What are you going by here? Sales or Game library? Since you included Kinect, I'm assuming you mean game library which brings me back to PS3, it shouldn't be on your list.

PS3 is a disappointment compared to initial expectations and predecessors performance. Thats a fact!

Also, I'm entitled to my opinion.

In sales? Sure, that's fact.

Quality of the games? Nope. 

If you agree with me then why bother replying to my post.

I was clarifying that the quality of games is largely subjective, because I didn't think it was very clear in your post. 



I genuinely love my Wii and have spent hundreds of happy hours playing it. Games like Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii and DKC:R are some of the best ever created, imho, and the inclusion of the Virtual Console only helps bolster its awesomeness for me.



Disappointment implies there were high hopes. Given that everyone expected Nintendo to fail (remember the analysts wanting it to go third-party) and that third parties abandoned it while it was still the Revolution (i.e., RE 5), it by definition cannot be a disappointment.

Once it became a top selling system, there was disappointment in the third-party software. Too many titles by big developers were rushed with less-than-stellar motion controls. The discerning and somewhat different Wii buyer would not put up with games where the motion was not recognized properly or at all or where it was added for no good reason. That and their resistance to buy annual sequels led many companies to do very little with the Wii, rather than make it a lead development platform and scale-up the games for the HD systems (N'Gai Croal suggested that ... Warren Spector is doing that). Instead, the Wii was left with junk, dumbed-down versions, and late PS2 ports. Now that was disappointing.

Out of the 400 Wii games I own, 100 are golden and about the same are junk. Too much junk is not good for a console.

Mike from Morgantown



      


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I actually took the time to write something good but then I though why bother? This is just a joke thread anyway.

I didn’t laugh though

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