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Alby_da_Wolf said:
kowenicki said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Meh week. PSV very, very low, but 3DS managed to drop even lower before price cut.
3DS is huge in Japan, but not so big WW, if we consider that 3DS+DS is smaller than DS alone used to be, even in the dead season, before Ninty started killing it.


Only when the price cut was rumored/known. 

True. Actually we can see that 3DS shines if compared to PSV's poor performance, PSV needs a comparison with 3DS at its worst to not look too bad, but both are currently disappointing compared to last gen. One of Sony's biggest mistakes with PSV is the same it did with PS3, a device so expensive needs a simultaneous WW launch able to fully exploit the first Xmas to achieve an initial boost as large as possible from early adopters and reach early enough the critical mass at which 3rd parties start releasing more important games. Ninty's biggest mistake was probably to kill too early DS sales, before 3DS was actually able to intercept them. And with Wii and Wii U this risky strategy can go even worse, as both PS3 and XB360 have already become stronger than Wii, while PSP became stronger than DS only in Japan when it could still be useful, while it is WW only now, with DS almost dead.

 


The PS Vita isn't expensive lmfao. Yes, it is the same price as a PS3....it doesn't mean Vita is expensive, it means PS3 is expensive.
The Vita was priced the same as the 3DS before the price cut. It's only now that the price is lowered that you people are calling it expensive or over-priced.

The problem with Vita is a lack of killer titles. Here's what it needs:

Japan
Exclusive Final Fantasy or Monster Hunter

America
Call of Duty
That Bioshock game that was announced
That Assassins Creed game that was announced
God of War?

Europe
Same as America but add FIFA



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binary solo said:
Barozi said:
haha Mass Effect on 360 outselling Mass Effect 3 on PS3 this week in the US ?
funny stuff.

It's the millons of PS3 Mass Effect fans having to go out an finally by ME1 and play it on their friend's 360, obviously.

I wonder if it's people diving in with ME3 and realizing they're probably not going to get the best experience.  I've played through since ME1 but just to see what it was like I started an ME3 game from scratch without importing a character, and while I only played a bit it seemed obvious that the game assumes you screwed up everything in ME1 and ME2 - unless it was just me it looked like one long run of downer results of losing crew or making bad choices earlier was about to decend on my poor ME1 and ME2

The other thing I find interesting about the sales 360 to PS3 is, looking at the general ratio split of multi-plat titles these days, the sheer amount of sales Bioware probably missed out on by being exclusive.

Unless you're getting serious incentives I'll never understand why developers simply leave money on the table like this.  I can get smaller developers supporting one platform at a time, like the team behind Limbo releasing on 360, then PS3 then PC.  But for a game like Mass Effect it just seems a poor choice.  I mean EA pushed hard to get the franchise started on PS3 and are probably fine with what sales they've salvaged, but still - a lot of lost sales I suspect.

One thing I have decided though, while I do like importing a character right through the story, games like this should always have an intro for new players to at least allow them a better start than the game seems to currently in terms of the story so far.  ME3 should really have another comic summarizing both ME and ME2.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

In this meh week overall, Europe gives PS3, XB360 and Wii a small satisfaction, Japan gives XB360 a small satisfaction too, saves PSV and gives 3DS a big satisfaction.



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Reasonable said:
binary solo said:
Barozi said:
haha Mass Effect on 360 outselling Mass Effect 3 on PS3 this week in the US ?
funny stuff.

It's the millons of PS3 Mass Effect fans having to go out an finally by ME1 and play it on their friend's 360, obviously.

I wonder if it's people diving in with ME3 and realizing they're probably not going to get the best experience.  I've played through since ME1 but just to see what it was like I started an ME3 game from scratch without importing a character, and while I only played a bit it seemed obvious that the game assumes you screwed up everything in ME1 and ME2 - unless it was just me it looked like one long run of downer results of losing crew or making bad choices earlier was about to decend on my poor ME1 and ME2

The other thing I find interesting about the sales 360 to PS3 is, looking at the general ratio split of multi-plat titles these days, the sheer amount of sales Bioware probably missed out on by being exclusive.

Unless you're getting serious incentives I'll never understand why developers simply leave money on the table like this.  I can get smaller developers supporting one platform at a time, like the team behind Limbo releasing on 360, then PS3 then PC.  But for a game like Mass Effect it just seems a poor choice.  I mean EA pushed hard to get the franchise started on PS3 and are probably fine with what sales they've salvaged, but still - a lot of lost sales I suspect.

One thing I have decided though, while I do like importing a character right through the story, games like this should always have an intro for new players to at least allow them a better start than the game seems to currently in terms of the story so far.  ME3 should really have another comic summarizing both ME and ME2.

It's clear Bioware put crappy choices in as the default for people not importing previous saves. They want you to play the first 2 games so giving default Shep a reasonable segue into the game isn't going to encourage that.



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small44 said:
Spedfrom said:
SunofKratos said:
The Vitas problem right now are the games. It will need more than some Pinball and chees game to sell. Software sells hardware. Games like God of War and Gran Turismo will sell the Vita and not some lame ports from older PS3 games. When will the developers realize that?

For the love of all that is holy, lety's stop putting PS3's series on the portable PlayStation!

I bought PSP for LocoRoco and even if I had only bought that game it would still have been worth it, because I fucking love it! And that's also what Vita needs, exclusive and adequate series. And good marketing for when said games come out.

PSVita need the too new ip like loco roco won't we systhem sellers,Big series move hardware like Gran turismo,Metal Gear Solid .


All good games sell consoles; some games sell more consoles than others, but the point still remains.

Sony sold me a PSP because of LocoRoco. Actually it sold two PSP's when I sold my PSP-1000 for a new (at the time) PSP-2000.



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kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

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True. Actually we can see that 3DS shines if compared to PSV's poor performance, PSV needs a comparison with 3DS at its worst to not look too bad, but both are currently disappointing compared to last gen. One of Sony's biggest mistakes with PSV is the same it did with PS3, a device so expensive needs a simultaneous WW launch able to fully exploit the first Xmas to achieve an initial boost as large as possible from early adopters and reach early enough the critical mass at which 3rd parties start releasing more important games. Ninty's biggest mistake was probably to kill too early DS sales, before 3DS was actually able to intercept them. And with Wii and Wii U this risky strategy can go even worse, as both PS3 and XB360 have already become stronger than Wii, while PSP became stronger than DS only in Japan when it could still be useful, while it is WW only now, with DS almost dead.

 


The PS Vita isn't expensive lmfao. Yes, it is the same price as a PS3....it doesn't mean Vita is expensive, it means PS3 is expensive.
The Vita was priced the same as the 3DS before the price cut. It's only now that the price is lowered that you people are calling it expensive or over-priced.

The problem with Vita is a lack of killer titles. Here's what it needs:

Japan
Exclusive Final Fantasy or Monster Hunter

America
Call of Duty
That Bioshock game that was announced
That Assassins Creed game that was announced
God of War?

Europe
Same as America but add FIFA


isnt FIFA already out on the Vita?

and to correct you... yes it is too expensive... clearly too expensive... obviously too expensive...

My point is slightly different, well, actually I was considering the issue from a different angle.

I definitely stand by my opinion that Vita is actually expensive, very expensive, I can agree with you that things thus standing it's TOO expensive, but my point is that if Sony was totally sure about launching it at this price, then it should have done a Xmas WW simultaneous launch. That didn't happen, so we'll never be able to verify my unreal hypothesis and thesis, that IMHO launching that way, and gathering more early adopters for the synergistic effect with Xmas, it could have reached earlier the critical mass for having some 3rd party games released (and some even just announced, as the essential MH) and also the amount of produced units and components purchased or produced to enjoy the first components price reduction, 3DS lead would have been kept smaller, and many other beneficial effects, maybe small if taken individually, but significant if put together, that could have made easier for Sony to keep the price so high longer, if so really wishes, before being forced to cut it.



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