Or Project Gotham Racing 5. Or if they didn't want that, Project Gotham Racing V (5 in roman numerals) - PGRV.

Reaaaaaally didn't expect that.

i rather have a blur 2... blur was such an underrated game that if it got some free map and car packs with a little balancing would have rivaled mario kart..

so durango revealing is this year e3 freakin sweet  ...

and so this fora horizon looks promising but so what happend to pgr5 annoucement did microsoft canned it for horizon?

Simply amazing. Forza 5 might just be a launch title for next xbox.

Im sorry for sounding like I am....but Turn 10 is by far the best dev MS has...cranking out 90+ metacritic games every 2 years, far more impressive then what Polyphany Digital is capable of

PD is still the best RACING SIMULATOR Dev on Consoles.Eveyone who knows anything of racing and plays with the best setup available knows and feels that.
And PD has a completely different aim than Turn10....Turn10 isn't that focused on Hardcore Racing Fans like PD is.They're also aiming at the casuals.
But its kinda weird they don't sell anything even with such high quality games like the Forza Series is.

The 360 is a complete waste for such amazing potential.The crowd simply doesn't care for Racing Games there.
But well - You can't win without Europe in that Genre and Sony owns Europe.The USA seems not really interested in Racing Games at all.
Its wasted at M$ - Turn10 should leave and start over at Sony so they can actually sell their stuff.Especially after Forza 4 sold 3 Millions or so less than Forza 3 while GT5 did 11 Millions combined with the Prologue Version and probably not counting the Digital Sales.

Your entitled to think PD is best but my rationale is based on facts. PD makes a GT game every 5 years that many considered fell below the bar GT 4 set. Turn 10 makes Forza 3x as fast and maintains surperb quality. 

In the end, its an uphill battle to battle the mindshare PD acquired from the 2 gens of being the only sim out on the market. MS just has to keep chipping away and its slowly working. When Forzas keep coming out and the next GT isnt coming out for years, sim fans will take notice. 

And really, every Forza sells enough to make a profit. And keeps the gamers happy with 2 year dev cycles, not making them wait. Oh, Forza 4 will have 600+ cars by May, 3x the premium cars in GT5, with Porches as well. 

I think PGR sales history never warranted a sequel. Seems MS wants Forza to be a bigger franchise, putting all its racing eggs in one basket so to speak. 

on other news turn 10 turns 10

No more PD or GT talk in here !