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brendude13 on 01 March 2012
leper-apostle said:
drkohler said:
leper-apostle said:
brendude13 said:
And their next console "essentially being a PC" is what will pull in the most money for them, even if they do have to get rid of backwards compatibility with the PS3 (PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility is inevitable).


Why do people keep saying this, backwards compatibility is still easily done,

Sure. An AMD processor emulating the PS3 cell processor. Even Better: An AMD processor that turned out to be subpar in performance emulating the PS3 cell processor. I believe you....

Umm no, you have no idea how software works... This is easily done through emulation. Sony will NOT make PS4 non backwards compatible.

Ugggh, sure buddy. Sure.



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Slimebeast on 01 March 2012

It would be so awesome if Sony went all AMD with the PS4, not just on the GPU which is already confirmed, but on the CPU too. AMD are the good guys, they need support from gamers and gaming companies.



Soleron on 01 March 2012
leper-apostle said:
drkohler said:
leper-apostle said:
brendude13 said:
And their next console "essentially being a PC" is what will pull in the most money for them, even if they do have to get rid of backwards compatibility with the PS3 (PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility is inevitable).


Why do people keep saying this, backwards compatibility is still easily done,

Sure. An AMD processor emulating the PS3 cell processor. Even Better: An AMD processor that turned out to be subpar in performance emulating the PS3 cell processor. I believe you....

Umm no, you have no idea how software works... This is easily done through emulation. Sony will NOT make PS4 non backwards compatible.

Can be done, yes, but I doubt 4 BD cores at say 3GHz are strong enough to emulate the Cell at a reasonable speed.



ishiki on 01 March 2012
gamelover2000 said:
Wait an X86 processor?

this would mean the ram is likely a max of 2GB

It can have 4gb including the videocard memory in an X86 system. And it would surprise me if they put that much in it.



superchunk on 01 March 2012

All these rumors of what the PS4 is or isn't just illustrates my point that all new consoles will be shown in some form at this E3 and will all launch by end of 2013.



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SnesTea on 01 March 2012
Soleron said:
lol if they go AMD they'll have another overhyped disappointment. Sony probably chose this when AMD were promising Bulldozer would be competitive.

At least if it's Fusion the graphics will be better integrated than a GPU thrown in at the last minute like PS3.

More than likely an A8 Llano chip with paired Radeon HD 6000 series graphics and 2GB RAM. At most.



Troll_Whisperer on 01 March 2012

How likely is that this thing would be backwards compatible?

Some people say it's possible, but my (not well informed, I'm not tech savvy) instincts tell me that emulating the PS3 with a single generation's leap would be extremely hard. Even harder than for PS3 to run PS2 games through emulation probably.



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Soleron on 01 March 2012
Snesboy said:
Soleron said:
lol if they go AMD they'll have another overhyped disappointment. Sony probably chose this when AMD were promising Bulldozer would be competitive.

At least if it's Fusion the graphics will be better integrated than a GPU thrown in at the last minute like PS3.

More than likely an A8 Llano chip with paired Radeon HD 6000 series graphics and 2GB RAM. At most.


Since it's coming out 2013 at the earliest I would say Trinity-based, given working Trinity samples were being demoed Q4 last year. Four cores and a GPU in 65W is not unreasonable for a console.



brendude13 on 01 March 2012
Troll_Whisperer said:
How likely is that this thing would be backwards compatible?

Some people say it's possible, but my (not well informed, I'm not tech savvy) instincts tell me that emulating the PS3 with a single generation's leap would be extremely hard. Even harder than for PS3 to run PS2 games through emulation probably.

I am certain that emulating the PS3 next generation will be impossible, unless it carries over the same components or very similar components, which according to this article, it will not. We can't even emulate the Xbox 360 on PC's yet, and if professional developers who make games with multi-million dollar budgets struggle to develop games for the system itself even to this day, then how the hell are we expected to emulate it next generation? I doubt CELL will be emulation the generation after either.

It's a shame, but I think the PS3 will continue to sell well into next gen and people won't be bothered by it. It may hurt SONY in the short run, but in the long run, it will stop them from bleeding money.



DarkTemplar on 01 March 2012

Great news if true.

A developer friendly-console have to be is like a PC but a joystick instead of the mouse/keyboard.