And those adjustment has already been made.  I would not be surprised at all if the VGC numbers in December dont match up with the NPD numbers. I would not be surprised one bit to see the 360 numbers on VGC to low.  With all the great deals on the 360 that were available the past two weeks I expected the 360 lead on the PS3 to grow. I expected the 360 to hit 3 million in the US in December.  Still I am not going to include that in the speculation threads that go on day to day, week to week.  I also believe that PS3 numbers were tracked low because Sony was so quiet after Black Friday weekend leading to the belief that the PS3 didnt do so well.  Before people go well PS3 will then be undertracked as well in December there is 1 key difference between Black Friday and December for the PS3 and that is the lack of the Black Friday bundle for $200.

I don't think your doing any different either. Many people are mistaking me or just too lazy to read my whole post. Forza sells less than 200k in its first month in the U.S.A. and sells over 4 million just two years later? And I'm always keen on reading Bestbuy, Futureshop, EB games (Gamestop) flyers and I had seen so many Forza bundles (2, 3 and now 4 as well) getting bundled massivly. Agreed Fable 2 and Fable 3 did start out pretty decently but soon became massively bundled with other hit after the holidays with other games for free (More so Fable 3). Halo and Gears of War were also bundled massivly but even without bundles they still sell great due to their huge fanbase and online community. Don't get me wrong but many PS3 games are also heavily bundled such as LBP, Resistance Fall of Man, Uncharted DF but eneograge or whatever his name is was wrong to just pinpoint "Uncharted 3" only sells with bundles and is one of the most hevaily bundled games" (he does hate on PS3 just look at his eariler posts) is clearly BS and that too right after it sells over 700k in the U.S.A. in it's first month and Sony stating "it doubled Uncharted 2's week one sales in its first week".  My point is sure Uncharted 3 is bundled but what big exclusive game that came out this holiday season or probably in the last couple of years isn't? That's why games like Gears of War, Uncharted, Halo, e.t.c. are called system sellers. PS3 just had its biggest November in the U.S.A. and one of those reasons could be Uncharted 3. Can't it? 

i believe fable 2 got a bundle in may 2009 and it was released october 2008. after 10 weeks it sold almost 2 million without bundles. whoever says this game series isn't selling good lives on another planet... it doesn't sell like halo or so but for this kind of game sales are very good.

and why isn't uncharted one of the most heavily bundled games? this game was bundled few weeks after release no clue what this means but for me this means it is a hugely bundled game. if i would buy a ps3 it's almost clear i would buy this bundle. it is a good game and i get it for free. hell we even had the uncharted+headset bundle from day one (at least here in germany).

no clue how someone can say it isn't one of the most bundled games. and why do you say in your first post it doesn't sell so much as bundle like other games but stand alone it sells very good and in the next you say it's a system seller many buy a ps3 for this game? so you think it's a system seller but these people don't buy the bundle they only buy a ps3 and a stand alone uncharted or what? ok i understand, uncharted sells consoles but the console bundle doesn't sell good because this would mean uncharted without bundle doesn't sell so good. yeah, nice try...

don't get me wrong i don't say uncharted doesn't sell without bundles but it sells much more because of these bundles and releasing a bundle few weeks after release in holiday season should be a sign for everyone that this will increase the sales a lot.

and talking about forza 4, yes the sales aren't very high but it is still only a racing game and for that sales aren't so bad. you can't compare it with gt because gt has the status to sell good even if it would be crap (which isn't the case). gt is a exception in the racing genre if it comes to sales.

It still seems to me that VGC is more accurate at tracking the 360 in most regions when compared to the PS3.  Either way, I guess we'll just have to wait til NPD and shipment numbers in January.  I do agree it is ridiculous for people to continue to bring it up when we only have a few weeks before NPD comes out to compare it to our numbers.

surprised this thread hasnt turned into an ALL OUT WAR YET!!

binfuckingo!! someone actually remembers. im pretty sure seece remembers aswell but doesnt want to admit it. ps3 was adjusted upwards by almost a million, something like 700-800k. thats what making a lot of people say ps3 is undertracked. it has nothing to do with conspiracies or vgchartz being fanboys but its vgchartz own history that almost guarantees ps3 will see upwards adjustment the most next time shipments are in.

Ahh, even with holiday numbers 360 is still kicking wii's butt. That is the way it is supposed to be. I love it!

We going to get new numbers this week? Or do we wait til the first week of 2012 for those numbers?

There is a reason this game is bundled with a Halo game. If you cant figure it out then God help you.

My week 1 comment was in response to someone who claimed that Fable 2 and 3 sold well over 1 million in the first week. I understand that games have legs and first week sales dont really mean much in terms of lifetime with particular IP's. That 95% number is hilarious though, I am assuming you have solid evidence for that right.

Fable 3 sales piggyback off of Halo and bundling. Stand alone it would not sell this well. If you believe it would put up the numbers it has in the past few weeks if it wasn't bundled, then again I say God help you. 

Lol just like you proved that everyone bought uncharted 3 bundle for the game right? Uncharted 3 sure is under selling considering $ony is throwing it in with a ps3