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Boutros on 04 December 2011
scottie said:
Vita was never really anticipated to have a good launch lineup. The low preorder numbers were to be expected. When the 3DS came out, it didn't have any software sales to brag about either. The true test for the PSV is November and December 2012.

The PSVita launch lineup is actually pretty good especially if you compare it to other handhelds in the past including the 3DS.

It's more like the hardware that it uninteresting.



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scottie on 04 December 2011
Boutros said:
scottie said:
Vita was never really anticipated to have a good launch lineup. The low preorder numbers were to be expected. When the 3DS came out, it didn't have any software sales to brag about either. The true test for the PSV is November and December 2012.

The PSVita launch lineup is actually pretty good especially if you compare it to other handhelds in the past including the 3DS.

It's more like the hardware that it uninteresting.


People don't just buy hardware because the hardware is good. People buy hardware based on games. PSV doesn't have any significant games at launch, so it will have low sales. The same thing happened to the 3DS - it's launch games were nothing spectacular.

 

The 3DS now has some amazing games out, and is consequently getting good sales. The PSV has until December 2012 to get some good, popular games if it wants to compete.



Icyedge on 04 December 2011

In Vita's case, the hardware does sell the product to me. Personally its because of the dual analog and 3G function. The 3G function is particularly interesting to me. I do realise that the majority will wait for a game they really really like though.



thismeintiel on 05 December 2011
scottie said:
Boutros said:
scottie said:
Vita was never really anticipated to have a good launch lineup. The low preorder numbers were to be expected. When the 3DS came out, it didn't have any software sales to brag about either. The true test for the PSV is November and December 2012.

The PSVita launch lineup is actually pretty good especially if you compare it to other handhelds in the past including the 3DS.

It's more like the hardware that it uninteresting.


People don't just buy hardware because the hardware is good. People buy hardware based on games. PSV doesn't have any significant games at launch, so it will have low sales. The same thing happened to the 3DS - it's launch games were nothing spectacular.

 

The 3DS now has some amazing games out, and is consequently getting good sales. The PSV has until December 2012 to get some good, popular games if it wants to compete.

No, the major hurdle for the 3DS was price.  People just didn't see $250 worth of value in their purchase.  Sure, lack of games didn't help, either.  I don't think the PS Vita will have that problem.  For one, the Vita is launching at the same exact price as the PSP did, which was able to sell ~12.3 million units at that price in the 15 months after its launch (at which point it got a price cut).  Of course, the Vita has a much better percieved value compared to the PSP, with much more graphical power and features.  And two, it doesn't seem Sony is going to allow the same drought of games to happen to the Vita that happened to the 3DS.



 

outlawauron on 05 December 2011

Well, I don't have it pre-ordered but I do plan on buying it. The thought of pre-ordering hardware doesn't make much sense to me.



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scottie on 05 December 2011
thismeintiel said:
scottie said:
Boutros said:

The PSVita launch lineup is actually pretty good especially if you compare it to other handhelds in the past including the 3DS.

It's more like the hardware that it uninteresting.


People don't just buy hardware because the hardware is good. People buy hardware based on games. PSV doesn't have any significant games at launch, so it will have low sales. The same thing happened to the 3DS - it's launch games were nothing spectacular.

 

The 3DS now has some amazing games out, and is consequently getting good sales. The PSV has until December 2012 to get some good, popular games if it wants to compete.

No, the major hurdle for the 3DS was price.  People just didn't see $250 worth of value in their purchase.  Sure, lack of games didn't help, either.  I don't think the PS Vita will have that problem.  For one, the Vita is launching at the same exact price as the PSP did, which was able to sell ~12.3 million units at that price in the 15 months after its launch (at which point it got a price cut).  Of course, the Vita has a much better percieved value compared to the PSP, with much more graphical power and features.  And two, it doesn't seem Sony is going to allow the same drought of games to happen to the Vita that happened to the 3DS.


Haha, I love it. $250 for the 3DS = too high. $280-330 for the PSV (you need a memory card to play some games, inc uncharted) = people will see the value.

 

As for number 2. PSV has a drought. Sony has allowed it already. Sony needs to step up their game by Dec 2012 to end said drought.



smbu2000 on 05 December 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
spurgeonryan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Boutros said:
Btw the 5 games are:

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/47652/ridge-racer-3d/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/45682/nintendogs-cats/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/45688/super-street-fighter-iv-3d-edition/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/47419/samurai-warriors-chronicles/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/45732/professor-layton-and-the-mask-of-miracle/


One factor might be that the 3DS had only like 8 launch games against 26 for the PSVita.

yep exactly..pretty much all those games have a good following in Japan..I expect good sales for Sf vs Tekken Vita for example, when it launches

and another point would be digital sales for Vita games...Vita with it's PSN integration will give more consideration for digital content than the 3ds. and also Vita is launching with some good 'free' games as well. Namely a new Badman and a AR based tank game

Thanks for stopping by and clarifying some things for us M.u.G.E.N! Glad we have someone who knows all about the Vita here.

you said something about some sort of pre-order limit? 

yeah the initial preorder limits at many places were sold out within hours. andriasang and kotaku had some articles running on it.

That was when they initially had pre-orders in October. Even then you could find the 3G version for pre-order. About 3 weeks ago or so they opened up pre-orders for the wifi version again as well. It's not hard to pre-order if you want one.




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thismeintiel on 05 December 2011
scottie said:
thismeintiel said:
scottie said:
Boutros said:

The PSVita launch lineup is actually pretty good especially if you compare it to other handhelds in the past including the 3DS.

It's more like the hardware that it uninteresting.


People don't just buy hardware because the hardware is good. People buy hardware based on games. PSV doesn't have any significant games at launch, so it will have low sales. The same thing happened to the 3DS - it's launch games were nothing spectacular.

 

The 3DS now has some amazing games out, and is consequently getting good sales. The PSV has until December 2012 to get some good, popular games if it wants to compete.

No, the major hurdle for the 3DS was price.  People just didn't see $250 worth of value in their purchase.  Sure, lack of games didn't help, either.  I don't think the PS Vita will have that problem.  For one, the Vita is launching at the same exact price as the PSP did, which was able to sell ~12.3 million units at that price in the 15 months after its launch (at which point it got a price cut).  Of course, the Vita has a much better percieved value compared to the PSP, with much more graphical power and features.  And two, it doesn't seem Sony is going to allow the same drought of games to happen to the Vita that happened to the 3DS.


Haha, I love it. $250 for the 3DS = too high. $280-330 for the PSV (you need a memory card to play some games, inc uncharted) = people will see the value.

 

As for number 2. PSV has a drought. Sony has allowed it already. Sony needs to step up their game by Dec 2012 to end said drought.

You may not like it, but it's true.  If the 3DS had remained $250 against a $250 Vita, there is no question the Vita would have crushed it. 

And drought?  They have 26 games ready for launch, with ~70 more to be ready in the coming months.  How is this a drought?



 

binary solo on 05 December 2011

Maybe Japanese gamers are looking to get a lot of their games via digital download, so that would skew the pre-orders to the low side. Obviously there are those 10,000 PSPGo owners who are already primed to be DD only Vita owners.



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JOKA_ on 05 December 2011
binary solo said:
Maybe Japanese gamers are looking to get a lot of their games via digital download, so that would skew the pre-orders to the low side. Obviously there are those 10,000 PSPGo owners who are already primed to be DD only Vita owners.


I was going to say this.  DD as a major possibility on this handheld might mean people plan to pick games up digitally.



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