Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Up! - 26th November

Kai Master said:
I think that's a shame to start with Germany before France as France is the second market in Europe after UK, still anti-French minds in the US ? Or new territories are added randomly ?


No it's not. Germany is by far the second biggest market in Europe. It's actually quite close to UK when you include PC software. French market was something like little over 40 million SW sales if I remember right. Neogaf had that complete European chart somewhere (countries listed by SW sales) but I can't bother to find it.



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i don't know if it's the same thing for every platform but from the numbers of ratings on the 3ds eshop i'd say

UK > Germany >> France >> Italy > Spain



 

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Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


Being respectable. That's a rare trait on this site. I commend you.



Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


So far with the low boosts of UK (11%) and Germany (6%), it almost seems unlikely. Europe and AP/MEA was 157k last week, so with the largest markets of Europe out the way, I can't see it getting the boost of around 80% required to make it. Also keep in mind Americas will not be 13% of the USA figure, because Black Friday is solely a USA event. Around 1.2m - 1.25m for the week looks much more realistic. 



Aj_habfan said:
Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


So far with the low boosts of UK (11%) and Germany (6%), it almost seems unlikely. Europe and AP/MEA was 157k last week, so with the largest markets of Europe out the way, I can't see it getting the boost of around 80% required to make it. Also keep in mind Americas will not be 13% of the USA figure, because Black Friday is solely a USA event. Around 1.2m - 1.25m for the week looks much more realistic. 


Are there Black Friday sales in Canada? I'd imagine Canadian retailers wouldn't want a bunch of Canadians going shopping in the states for the low prices.



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i dont like this new global thread, there should be different threads for each individual regions software and hardware charts.



Aj_habfan said:
Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


So far with the low boosts of UK (11%) and Germany (6%), it almost seems unlikely. Europe and AP/MEA was 157k last week, so with the largest markets of Europe out the way, I can't see it getting the boost of around 80% required to make it. Also keep in mind Americas will not be 13% of the USA figure, because Black Friday is solely a USA event. Around 1.2m - 1.25m for the week looks much more realistic. 

They're probably talking about real-time sales. 360 is surely ahead of 60m by now if you factor in the sales for this week that VGC hasn't counted yet.



God I am still so surprised the 360 managed to sell such a ridiculous amount, it far exceeded my expectations.

Also from the digital bundle Halo Reach has sold roughly 400k sales that haven't been tracked by Vgchartz which brings the total sales past 8.9 million sales at least since there are probably a couple 100k worth of digital sales from people just buying Reach on the marketplace which I am not figuring in due to how impossible it is to get even rough estimates of those.

Anyways Reach is pretty much guaranteed to cross 10 million by years end.



Dianko said:
Aj_habfan said:
Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


So far with the low boosts of UK (11%) and Germany (6%), it almost seems unlikely. Europe and AP/MEA was 157k last week, so with the largest markets of Europe out the way, I can't see it getting the boost of around 80% required to make it. Also keep in mind Americas will not be 13% of the USA figure, because Black Friday is solely a USA event. Around 1.2m - 1.25m for the week looks much more realistic. 


Are there Black Friday sales in Canada? I'd imagine Canadian retailers wouldn't want a bunch of Canadians going shopping in the states for the low prices.

That is exactly what most Canadian shoppers do. In recent years a few retailers have tried cashing in on the name and have their own "Black Friday" sales, but they pale in comparison to the USA deals. Canada's equivalent is Boxing day, which isn't until December 26th.



pezus said:
Aj_habfan said:
Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
Why is there that big of a difference between the 58.7 million for X360 sales on the front page of VGC while in this thread Seece says 60 million?

Also I dont understand where all these sales are coming from. How can X360 outsell 2010 when its got no formal price drop? Also Kinect sales have beel slumping thru all year so it's hard to understand where that boost comes from.

Either he's speaking ahead of updates or talking about official shipped numbers.  In the industry the shipped numbers define the public sales.  60 million shipped with 58.7 million sold seems acceptable.

Can't seem to find the post you mention so hard to say without reading his actual words.  Seece is normaly pretty clear in his statements.


No no no this weeks numbers have not been added to the bar graph on the main page yet. What you can see there are the numbers before Black Friday week. With the rest of the regions coming in, the 360 will be above 60M for the BF week.

 

EDIT: Meh too late


So far with the low boosts of UK (11%) and Germany (6%), it almost seems unlikely. Europe and AP/MEA was 157k last week, so with the largest markets of Europe out the way, I can't see it getting the boost of around 80% required to make it. Also keep in mind Americas will not be 13% of the USA figure, because Black Friday is solely a USA event. Around 1.2m - 1.25m for the week looks much more realistic. 

They're probably talking about real-time sales. 360 is surely ahead of 60m by now if you factor in the sales for this week that VGC hasn't counted yet.

Yea I suppose regardless of whether they intended that or not it is a fact. I was kind of just hoping someone would challenge my numbers and prove that 360 passed 60M this week.