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What is Herman Cain to you?

A punchline 19 31.67%
 
A menace 11 18.33%
 
A candidate 6 10.00%
 
THE NEXT POTUS 14 23.33%
 
(Results plz) 10 16.67%
 
Total:60



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Darc Requiem said:


So politically incorrect. So damn funny!



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why the hell do we want to add a national sales tax? I'm not against it by itself, but only if you get rid of the income tax.
He was the former head of the federal reserve in KC, that's enough for me not to want to vote for the guy.
The women issues alone wouldn't be a deal-breaker, but just add fuel to the fire.
He knows nothing about foreign policy, and all of his domestic policy is obviously just fed to him by others, not that many of the others are that different though.
As someone said in here, ron paul or gary johnson are the only 2 choices. Ron Paul is the only one who has a chance, so that's my guy.

Why people want Gingrich is beyond me.



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johnsobas said:
why the hell do we want to add a national sales tax? I'm not against it by itself, but only if you get rid of the income tax.
He was the former head of the federal reserve in KC, that's enough for me not to want to vote for the guy.
The women issues alone wouldn't be a deal-breaker, but just add fuel to the fire.
He knows nothing about foreign policy, and all of his domestic policy is obviously just fed to him by others, not that many of the others are that different though.
As someone said in here, ron paul or gary johnson are the only 2 choices. Ron Paul is the only one who has a chance, so that's my guy.

Why people want Gingrich is beyond me.


One word. Stupidity.



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The GOP primary season has been an embarrassment this cycle. 150 million self-descrbed "conservative" or "moderate/leaning conservative" adults in this country, and they have these candidates? Huntsman, Pawlenty, and maybe Paul were the only serious candidates that are actually truly conservatives AND intelligent AND with clean enough records public/private enough to get/do the job.

Paul is too libertarian in some ways to get the nomination.
Pawlenty got run out of town because he was too electable. (i.e. not right-wing enough for the primary voters).
Huntsman has never even been noticed by the masses enough to get rejected.

Bachmann is just....no. Three terms in Congress and has never had a sponsored or written bill passed. She's pointless. And not well-versed enough in the issues. She's not stupid, but she certainly hasn't studied up enough.

Perry is a joke.

Gingrich got run out of Congress, fined for ethics violations, had an affair )and lied about it) the whole time he was impeaching Clinton largely for lying about having an affair, has three marriages, sells his principles to the highest bidder, has ego the size of the White House/

Cain you guys have covered. But he lost me as soon as he started talking about how the president doesn't need to be smart or, like, KNOW things. Yah we tried that once. Didn't work so well. He reminded me of Bush in that he'd be the figurehead for the people behind him really calling the shots.

Romney. Who knows about Romney? The party that ran John Kerry out of town for "flip-flopping" on a very easily explainable change of course as circumstances changed are going to, just 8 years later, hire a guy who flipped on every key conservative issue on the agenda? I think not.

It's by far the weirdest election cycle I've ever seen. And I'm fairly old and minored in political science and majored in journalism. I love this stuff. And this whole thing makes me scratch my head. There's a lot of smart, thoughtful, serious conservative people in the world. But they aren't running for president this year.



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fastyxx said:
 There's a lot of smart, thoughtful, serious conservative people in the world.

Yes there are. And they are all moderates, at least according to the standards the Republican party use these days. So the chance of a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative becoming POTUS is pretty slim for the forseeable future.

OTOH on the Democrat side, the candidate has to be bordering on being a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative to have the remotest chance of being elected POTUS. And they're still branded as such pinko socialists that they're almost red. Obama for instance is too right of centre for almost any left of centre party in Western democracies except for the USA.

So while the US political parties are skewed to the right rather than being balanced around the centre then the main party on the right will tend to get more extreme (to maintain differentiation from the only slightly right party) and hence attract more wingnuts to positions of prominance. The wingnut fringe of the Democrats remains largely marginalised as they are unelectable on the national stage, whereas the moderates in the Republican party are the ones being marginalised.

Tea anyone?



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NiKKoM said:

it's truly amazing that Obama has a real shot at reelection not because he's doing stuff right or wrong... but because there are complete idiots at the other side..


I thought no one else noticed this! As far as Herman Cain, I knew right away he would never be allowed to run against Obama. I just can't see two black men running against each other for presidency of the U.S. Like Kasz216 said it would upset so many groups to see that. Either way the man is a jackass and I'm not sure he fully understands what it takes to be president. I'm not sure he understands what it takes to be a real man.



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Goddbless said:
NiKKoM said:

it's truly amazing that Obama has a real shot at reelection not because he's doing stuff right or wrong... but because there are complete idiots at the other side..


I thought no one else noticed this! As far as Herman Cain, I knew right away he would never be allowed to run against Obama. I just can't see two black men running against each other for presidency of the U.S. Like Kasz216 said it would upset so many groups to see that. Either way the man is a jackass and I'm not sure he fully understands what it takes to be president. I'm not sure he understands what it takes to be a real man.

I'm not sure any modern president culd survive this economy, whether you blame him for it or not. I largely think he did the best he could under the circumstances.  Hard to change economy when it's a global issue, either for the worse or the better, in ANY case, but when you are the executive trying to work with a pretty dysfunctional legislative branch, it's pretty impossible to do much good OR much damage.  But people like change when times are bad (often the wrong idea, in that we tend to keep changing course upstream, then downstream then upstream and we end up going not very far in any direction.)  

But I have to agree that the more this GOP primary goes, the more I see Obama surviving the election - as long as things don't get markedly worse.  



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binary solo said:
fastyxx said:
 There's a lot of smart, thoughtful, serious conservative people in the world.

Yes there are. And they are all moderates, at least according to the standards the Republican party use these days. So the chance of a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative becoming POTUS is pretty slim for the forseeable future.

OTOH on the Democrat side, the candidate has to be bordering on being a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative to have the remotest chance of being elected POTUS. And they're still branded as such pinko socialists that they're almost red. Obama for instance is too right of centre for almost any left of centre party in Western democracies except for the USA.

So while the US political parties are skewed to the right rather than being balanced around the centre then the main party on the right will tend to get more extreme (to maintain differentiation from the only slightly right party) and hence attract more wingnuts to positions of prominance. The wingnut fringe of the Democrats remains largely marginalised as they are unelectable on the national stage, whereas the moderates in the Republican party are the ones being marginalised.

Tea anyone?

20 years ago, Obama would've been a Republican in many of his policies.  Hell, Reagan raised taxes.  Bush the First raised taxes.  As the parties get pulled to the right, the center and moderate left keep moving to the right too. I'm with you.  I find it hilarious that Obama gets called out for being some kind of leftist, Marxist, Socialist, Communist.  The death of the moderate in Washington is what paralyzed the country.  No one in the middle means no compromise, leading to neeeding 60 votes in the Senate to get things done, which is virtually impossible.  



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?