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What is Herman Cain to you?

A punchline 19 31.67%
 
A menace 11 18.33%
 
A candidate 6 10.00%
 
THE NEXT POTUS 14 23.33%
 
(Results plz) 10 16.67%
 
Total:60

As of about 2PM EST, Cain has officially dropped out of the race.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

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fastyxx said:
binary solo said:
fastyxx said:
 There's a lot of smart, thoughtful, serious conservative people in the world.

Yes there are. And they are all moderates, at least according to the standards the Republican party use these days. So the chance of a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative becoming POTUS is pretty slim for the forseeable future.

OTOH on the Democrat side, the candidate has to be bordering on being a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative to have the remotest chance of being elected POTUS. And they're still branded as such pinko socialists that they're almost red. Obama for instance is too right of centre for almost any left of centre party in Western democracies except for the USA.

So while the US political parties are skewed to the right rather than being balanced around the centre then the main party on the right will tend to get more extreme (to maintain differentiation from the only slightly right party) and hence attract more wingnuts to positions of prominance. The wingnut fringe of the Democrats remains largely marginalised as they are unelectable on the national stage, whereas the moderates in the Republican party are the ones being marginalised.

Tea anyone?

20 years ago, Obama would've been a Republican in many of his policies.  Hell, Reagan raised taxes.  Bush the First raised taxes.  As the parties get pulled to the right, the center and moderate left keep moving to the right too. I'm with you.  I find it hilarious that Obama gets called out for being some kind of leftist, Marxist, Socialist, Communist.  The death of the moderate in Washington is what paralyzed the country.  No one in the middle means no compromise, leading to neeeding 60 votes in the Senate to get things done, which is virtually impossible.  

Not quite.

Obama is much closer to LBJ than Ronald Reagan. Reagan eventually reduced taxes and cut government spending. LBJ didn't, and neither has Obama.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

mrstickball said:
As of about 2PM EST, Cain has officially dropped out of the race.

Awww... and he also lost his mistress.... sad days for him..



 

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NiKKoM said:
mrstickball said:
As of about 2PM EST, Cain has officially dropped out of the race.

Awww... and he also lost his mistress.... sad days for him..


Yep. I feel this is a total repeat of John Edwards in 2008. Now he shines shoes for spare cash after his downfall. Crazy stuff.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

mrstickball said:
fastyxx said:
binary solo said:
fastyxx said:
 There's a lot of smart, thoughtful, serious conservative people in the world.

Yes there are. And they are all moderates, at least according to the standards the Republican party use these days. So the chance of a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative becoming POTUS is pretty slim for the forseeable future.

OTOH on the Democrat side, the candidate has to be bordering on being a smart, thoughtful, serious conservative to have the remotest chance of being elected POTUS. And they're still branded as such pinko socialists that they're almost red. Obama for instance is too right of centre for almost any left of centre party in Western democracies except for the USA.

So while the US political parties are skewed to the right rather than being balanced around the centre then the main party on the right will tend to get more extreme (to maintain differentiation from the only slightly right party) and hence attract more wingnuts to positions of prominance. The wingnut fringe of the Democrats remains largely marginalised as they are unelectable on the national stage, whereas the moderates in the Republican party are the ones being marginalised.

Tea anyone?

20 years ago, Obama would've been a Republican in many of his policies.  Hell, Reagan raised taxes.  Bush the First raised taxes.  As the parties get pulled to the right, the center and moderate left keep moving to the right too. I'm with you.  I find it hilarious that Obama gets called out for being some kind of leftist, Marxist, Socialist, Communist.  The death of the moderate in Washington is what paralyzed the country.  No one in the middle means no compromise, leading to neeeding 60 votes in the Senate to get things done, which is virtually impossible.  

Not quite.

Obama is much closer to LBJ than Ronald Reagan. Reagan eventually reduced taxes and cut government spending. LBJ didn't, and neither has Obama.

Sort of.  Reagan closed loopholes to offset the income tax rate's decimation on the high end, unlike the Bush tax cuts, which had no offset.  And his increases in defense spending more than made up for the cuts he made in government.  They're just accounted for differently.  



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

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There's a forum at 8pm et (about 40 minutes) on Fox News, hosted by Huckabee (what?). Still, should be a good watch for those not decided on their choice for candidate.



did he say goodbye with a quote from Pokemon?



 

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NiKKoM said:
did he say goodbye with a quote from Pokemon?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/03/cain-quotes-pok-mon-movie-in-final-speech.html

Apparently he heard the song from TV Olympics coverage that used it, and liked it a lot.  In a debate he attributed the lyrics to "a poet", and people soon found out the poet was from "Pokemon the Movie 2000".  But he'd already committed to liking the quote so he apparently didn't care. 



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Final-Fan said:
NiKKoM said:
did he say goodbye with a quote from Pokemon?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/03/cain-quotes-pok-mon-movie-in-final-speech.html

Apparently he heard the song from TV Olympics coverage that used it, and liked it a lot.  In a debate he attributed the lyrics to "a poet", and people soon found out the poet was from "Pokemon the Movie 2000".  But he'd already committed to liking the quote so he apparently didn't care. 

A quote from a Pokemon movie, and a tax plan from Sim City...

makes you wonder if Herman Cain is a closet nerd.

Would explain all the sexual harrassment, i mean have you ever played a multiplayer game when a woman came on the server?