The prof00 did this this same thread a long time ago and it was so much better.

Not true.

1. He made 3 threads in the space of 2 weeks about the same thing. The Wii being a toy. As I have conclusively proven, the console isn't the toy, the software is the toy.

2. He used an example of Miyamoto referring to a videogame as a toy. I used Will Wright. Both make great software toys however Miyamoto was talking about Wii Music. Will Wright was talking about Sim City. Miyamoto also said that because Wii Music is a toy then that makes it more interesting than a videogame. Clearly he was drunk and as such we can't take anything he said seriously.

3.  I don't see any sexual undertones that imply that metadarlings are deviants and perverts compared with normal people who play the game instead of needing a story, roleplay or a toy/doll to satisfy themselves.

Mine wins.

Pretty sure Pyro as Bill is joking, considering his complete lack of evidence for his claims and just the absurdity of his claims

Interesting enough, but to me they look more as a view of genres than strict definitions.

I'd propose something like this:

Toys: Offers the possibility to create your own ruleset, and change those rules at will during any point of play.

Games: Lets you play according to a strict set of rules, offering a varition of possibilities within those rules.

Puzzles: Lets you play according to a strict set of rules, but only offering one (or very limited) path(s) towards a solution.

Law: Enforces a set of rules upon you.

I think you missed his point.  What Rol is saying, is that back in the old days there was no guarantee that you were going to be good enough to get to the end of the game.  Or even good enough to see most of the game.  With the current generation, most games are easy enough that just about anyone can finish them.

I understood that, but my comment was also in line with the rest of his comment. Back in those days, finishing a game such as Ninja Gaiden, Crystalis, the original Zelda, Ghouls and Goblins, Contra, Battletoads, etc, was itself an achievement, even if it was only for personal gratification. Of course, not a lot of people can say that they finished X, Y or Z game from that era, but those that do felt a sense of achievement higher than anything this past gens have ever given. 

Probably the sense of entitlement to finish a game wasn't present on most gamers before, but to some, finishing a game was all that mattered, no matter the difficulty, no matter how long it would take. At least that was true for me and still is nowadays, no matter how easy and dumb-proof the majority of gaming has become.