That analogue is flawed

You got willpower purely out of your survival instinct. On average humans prefer to go against the odds and die trying than just give up and shoot themselves. Even shooting yourself requires immense amount of willpower.

Science is about the pursuit of knowledge. If that helps humanity, so be it.

Buddhism does indeed have no God, which makes it a lot more sensible than the large majority of religions, and I would not disrespect anyone who chooses to follow Buddhism.

I suppose the bit that gets me is the vegetarianism. I'd rather eat meat, then wait until I am reincarnated as a vegetarian animal, I suppose.

Also, I would love a link for that, because it seems far more logical that most scientists are either atheist/agnostic or Christian.

elaborate how willpower is measurable?

atheism follow blind faith in science but science is information collected upto current time.

it can explain and prove things that have been seen until current time

but if a person exhibits something through willpower then science explain it and incorporated it after it

but science wouldn't know it beforehand

Are you seriusly going to debate the official concepts of Pantheism and the dictionary definition of religion now? 

thats what i was talking about the ignorance.

people think religion doesn't have logic and its blind when infact they are really blind.

yeah you can go to the dictionary and chck it out

but will the dictionary give you what its philosophical meaning is and how its philosophy is related to the world?

So you are now saying that not being religious doesn't make you weak but you are just saying that you consider non religious people weak?

no i am saying is that most people who call themselves athiest and still follow moral lives aren't really athiest as they are following the same ethics that are mentioned in the religions

they think of religion the same way our ignorant society does

Religion is not purely about theistic beliefs but Athiesm is about the lack of thiestic belifes

right but atheism also philosophically is that there are no consequences

and as the thread is clearly labled that is what I am talking about. And an athiest can belive in karma as long as he/she doesn't belive there is some consius diety or spirit controlling it.

yes but thats what pantheism is about not atheism

you are trying to give atheism a new meaning with the way you think of it when there is already a word 'pantheism' for what you mean

I think you are confusing Athiests with anarchists or something... 

You don't even have to belong to a religion to belive in god let alone be an upstanding citizen...

So yea you are just trolling right? You are really not that stupid right?

thats being ignorant

yes but over time we understand and stop the immoral behaviour as we know we have to maintain relations to this world

but atheist would continue in the same manner until death

Are we talking about the same willpower?

It's easy to mesure just torture them untill they lose the will to move there mesured...

if they lose the will then their willpower in not that strong,thats

but as history has shown many people have that willpower and don't move and die fighting for justice or peace

The ONLY thing being an Athiest dictates is that they don't belive in a "higher power" or "creator" of the universe.

Seriously you are just trolling right?

you seem that relgious views and philosphy have no link
,ignorance is all over this

You didn't address my point. if a religious person does the right thing, that is not an indicator of morality, it is an indicator of fear of punishment.

thats the in abrahamic religions not dharmic and taoist religions

if you notice ur daily life,you normally wouldn't do anything immoral as it is

We also see that Atheists commit much fewer crimes http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Percentage_of_atheists

if they really were athiest then they would do whatever they want and commit crimes

they don't as i said before that in normal way of life,nobody would commit crime as it is.

and this brings the question why most people identify athiest as rarely anybody in the population knows about panthiesm

pantheism is atheism and morality that all

So we have a group of people who refrain from committing crimes, for no other reason than because they know that these crimes hurt other people, and you would like to spin it to give the impression that this group is immoral?

no

i'm talking about their lack of knowledge about pantheism and that they are identifying themselves wrongly that all

yes but thats not being athiest but panthiest

an athiest will feel superior as he would think their are no consequences