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snakenobi said:
scottie said:

If you're only behaving in a certain way for fear of punishment, that is not morality. Morality is being able to do something wrong,and choosing not to because of knowledge that it would negatively effect others, rather than yourself.

 

yes but over time we understand and stop the immoral behaviour as we know we have to maintain relations to this world

but atheist would continue in the same manner until death


You didn't address my point. if a religious person does the right thing, that is not an indicator of morality, it is an indicator of fear of punishment.

 

We also see that Atheists commit much fewer crimes http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Percentage_of_atheists

 

So we have a group of people who refrain from committing crimes, for no other reason than because they know that these crimes hurt other people, and you would like to spin it to give the impression that this group is immoral?