@thismeintiel

It is late, and I am tired so I will keep this brief. I am not going to pick apart all your arguments tonight save the first one. No you cannot call the United States a Christian Nation. Firstly that is derogatory to all non Christian citizens. So you ought not do that out of simple decency. Secondly the United States government has made itself crystal clear about this terminology. No the United States is not a Christian nation.

@Rath

Weird though it may sound it is true. There are Atheist organizations for supporting their views, and they do indeed have leadership. Being a Atheist does not make one passive about their beliefs. At the time Ellen Johnson would probably have been a good candidate seeing as she was president of the American Atheists organization. What I personally find weird is the notion that you would bring religious leaders to ground zero in any official capacity in the first place.

To my way of thinking you can always kiss Gods ass on your own time rather then on my dime. Which is what our old friend Bush did with that stunt. It wasn't about the country it was about stroking his own damned ego. I wasn't too happy about his self absorption in asking the troops to pray for him either. What a fucking dick.

Anyway ask a silly question, and get a silly answer. Please learn to use a search engine in the future. This literally took me all of five seconds to find. Would it really have been that hard to do for yourself. I am nodding off now good night.

this is a great post. I agree with all of this.

I think the Atheist are just so tired of 'God' and 'Religions' being shoved at them all the time. Religious wackos put it in the pledge and on money - places religious references clearly do not belong. And are now trying to re-write history and say that George Washington prayed before crossing the Delaware and that Thomas Jefferson was a Christian. Even the author wrongly claimed that both Christmas and Easter have their roots in Christianity!

Some of us, myself included, get so tired of Christians that bully everyone, then cry foul when they don't get their way. Most Christians don't even know that Sunday is not their holy day as defined by scripture. ( it's Saturday. )

Why not put the cross in the Christian Church that is right next to ground zero. Wouldn't it make more sense to have it in a Church and not a governmental building.

That seems like it would make everyone happy.

Was that ask a silly question get a silly answer directed at me?

Because if so the fact that there are atheist organisations does not make the idea of an representative of atheists any less stupid. Atheists are not at all a homogenous group unlike the major religions. I know that there are atheist organisations, I personally do not think they really represent anyone apart from the members of their own organisation.

I'm an atheist but I don't give a fuck about this stuff, those people should shut the fuck up

No, that doesn't make the US a Christian nation. In order for the US to be a 'Christian nation', Christianity would have to be the official state religion of the US, Christianity would have to be in control of all institutions and the US laws would have to be based in Christianity. The US has no official state religion (something which is forbidden by your constitution), the state institutions are secular, and the Constitution is based on common law and influence from European philosophers. If the US were a Christian nation, then it would to be similar to Saudi Arabia, which is an Islamic nation: Islam is the official religion, every institution and every aspect of life is controlled by Islam, Sharia law is instated (which is based directly on the Quran and Sunnah). The only country in the world that can be described as a 'Christian nation' is the Vatican (which isn't even a real state).

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli, unanimously ratified by the Senate in 1797. The founding fathers did not believe that America was a Christian nation.

While that is undeniably stupid to try and block the lump of steel being included. I would have thought Christians would be the ones trying to block it, after all I know if I believed in Christ I wouldn't want Jesus's calling card attached to such an atrocity, I mean someone might think he was trying to claim responsibility...







don't kill me

except one small insignificant thing: the reason why its even considerd a holiday and the reason why its brought up in western world: the birth of christ

you know, greece is an official christian nation, and none of the bolded stuff is the case there