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Baalzamon on 11 June 2011
theARTIST0017 said:

YOU ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT.

Your statements are mostly based on IF's and YOUR OPINIONS. Don't get me wrong here bro you are entitled to your opinion, BUT. $100 for a Wii-U remote? Are you kidding me bro? Just becasue the only thing different between it and a Wii Remote is a screen and slightly better tech? You can purchase a new DS Lite for around that.

If I don't own a Wii, and I buy a Wii-U, I want four Wii-U controllers or at least the option of pluging in Gamecube controllers so that I may play Smash Brothers the way its supposed to be played. Oh and a Wii-U controller would more likely be $50 not $100.

Ok, your logic is also flawed here.  Wii Remotes are sold for $40.  You honest to good god think they can include something with a 6" touch screen (that is much higher resolution than a ds screen), along with some other goodies inside of it so it can work swell with the system for $10 more?  Maybe not quite $100 (although I still think that is what it will cost), but at least $70.



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Erik Aston on 11 June 2011
wick said:

So imagine going over to a friends place back in the day and playing goldeneye with this setup.

One player has a distinct advantage over the others.

Sorry Ninty, If this is your 'masterplan', you've completely blown it.


Brilliant.

The only issue with this is that SNES had one standard controller, not, like, 4. That picture would be accurate if one of those was a SNES controller, one was an SNES controller +, one was an SNES controller with the SNES+ dongle, and one was the SNES controller with a nunchuk.



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theARTIST0017 on 11 June 2011
Baalzamon said:
theARTIST0017 said:

YOU ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT.

Your statements are mostly based on IF's and YOUR OPINIONS. Don't get me wrong here bro you are entitled to your opinion, BUT. $100 for a Wii-U remote? Are you kidding me bro? Just becasue the only thing different between it and a Wii Remote is a screen and slightly better tech? You can purchase a new DS Lite for around that.

If I don't own a Wii, and I buy a Wii-U, I want four Wii-U controllers or at least the option of pluging in Gamecube controllers so that I may play Smash Brothers the way its supposed to be played. Oh and a Wii-U controller would more likely be $50 not $100.

Ok, your logic is also flawed here.  Wii Remotes are sold for $40.  You honest to good god think they can include something with a 6" touch screen (that is much higher resolution than a ds screen), along with some other goodies inside of it so it can work swell with the system for $10 more?  Maybe not quite $100 (although I still think that is what it will cost), but at least $70.

Unfortunatley, the Wii remote is overpriced. Especially the nunchuck. $70 for a controller is an abomination.



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theARTIST0017 on 11 June 2011
Erik Aston said:
wick said:

So imagine going over to a friends place back in the day and playing goldeneye with this setup.

One player has a distinct advantage over the others.

Sorry Ninty, If this is your 'masterplan', you've completely blown it.


Brilliant.

The only issue with this is that SNES had one standard controller, not, like, 4. That picture would be accurate if one of those was a SNES controller, one was an SNES controller +, one was an SNES controller with the SNES+ dongle, and one was the SNES controller with a nunchuk.


Either way you look at it it's still taking a step backwards. The fact that you want to add extra to the control setup reffering to dongles and Classic controller plus, thats just more money than many would rather not spend, if they had those kind of funds in the first place.



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gumby_trucker on 11 June 2011
theARTIST0017 said:


I'm going to agree with Padib above and say the Classic Controller, at least when it comes to SSB sucks. At least Brawl gave us the option to use Gamecube controllers. 

Processing? Oh please the Wii-U does most of the processing. Now I will give you  that it has a lot of the stuff a DS lite does but the way I think about it, if Nintendo decides that only 1 or 2 Wii-U Controllers can be used with the console, then they will be taking a step backwards. Sorry if I sound blunt but thats the way I see it. Multiplayer has always been  a big impact in my family especially four player and there are many in my family that don't like the Wii Remote/Classic Controller. They do however love Gamecube controllers. This will be a make it or break it for the system.

The issue may be more of bandwidth for the remote video signal(s) than processing. Granted that doesn't mean it's not possible to develop specifically for a mode with two Upads, just that graphics and video quality would take a hit, similarly to how they would in current split screen games.

There is also the option that the communications protocol between console and remote screen was only developed with a single client in mind and has no way to deliver different signals concurrently, but it would be pretty short-sighted of the dev team if that were the case.



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Dv8thwonder on 11 June 2011
axt113 said:
Mr Khan said:
axt113 said:
Been telling people this console is doomed to fail

I've seen your reasoning behind that assertion, and would contest it. The tablet itself is no more intimidating than a DS, having no more buttons or functionality than the DS had (well, extra analogues, but still more or less the same as that very high-selling device).

You're not seeing Nintendo "concede" to other forms of entertainment rather than acknowledge consumer difficulties with various forms of entertainment competing for TV space. Now for some, perhaps many, single-player games, you can compromise, lowering one of the barriers of entry for more upstream games (that you hog the TV by playing them so long). At the same time, the device means that Nintendo can go forwards with many of the Wii experiences, with local multiplayer games for all

This just opens up more options. The remaining question is how these options will be utilized, but that's always what ultimately makes or breaks a console anyway


Analog sticks are enough to intimidate, and having two is even more complex, not to mention, its not the same as the DS, the DS touchscreem was small and makde it look like a PDA, this looks like an Ipad with a Wiimote and two nunchuks grafted on.

 

Yes you are seeing it conced, Wii was about competing with all other entertainment, being the center of the entertainment relam of the household, this clearly shows concession, Baseball is on, move to the small screen, and if its a multiplayuer game, well too bad.  The Wii was about controlling the TV space, and if you wanted to do other stuf, you did it through the Wii, not in place of the Wii.

No it doesn;t open more options, it isolates the gamer, and takes gaming away from the center of the house entertainment world , the fact that there is only one Upad proves this



I had no idea Malstrom made puppets. Not a personal attack mind you but you're parroting him almost verbatim. Why don't we wait until the thing is released or we actually play it before passing over judgement.



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Dv8thwonder on 11 June 2011
wick said:

So imagine going over to a friends place back in the day and playing goldeneye with this setup.

One player has a distinct advantage over the others.

Sorry Ninty, If this is your 'masterplan', you've completely blown it.



I read your post then glanced at your sig and then I realized you are in no position to question what Nintendo does because of such a flawed logic and limited scope from a gamers perspective. Greatest gift to man...lol indeed. There's only one "advantage" and that's on the NES.



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viewtiful_jon on 11 June 2011

They really need to launch a traditinal style controller for the other players, I dont want to be using the wiimote again. CC+ maybe. This seems like an expensive bad idea too me, but then I thought the wii sounded like a great idea and was dissapointed in the uses of that so lets hope im wroung.



Baalzamon on 11 June 2011
theARTIST0017 said:
Baalzamon said:
theARTIST0017 said:

YOU ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT.

Your statements are mostly based on IF's and YOUR OPINIONS. Don't get me wrong here bro you are entitled to your opinion, BUT. $100 for a Wii-U remote? Are you kidding me bro? Just becasue the only thing different between it and a Wii Remote is a screen and slightly better tech? You can purchase a new DS Lite for around that.

If I don't own a Wii, and I buy a Wii-U, I want four Wii-U controllers or at least the option of pluging in Gamecube controllers so that I may play Smash Brothers the way its supposed to be played. Oh and a Wii-U controller would more likely be $50 not $100.

Ok, your logic is also flawed here.  Wii Remotes are sold for $40.  You honest to good god think they can include something with a 6" touch screen (that is much higher resolution than a ds screen), along with some other goodies inside of it so it can work swell with the system for $10 more?  Maybe not quite $100 (although I still think that is what it will cost), but at least $70.

Unfortunatley, the Wii remote is overpriced. Especially the nunchuck. $70 for a controller is an abomination.

Well, first off, I'll disagree that the Wii remote is overpriced.  Are they making a profit on it?  Well sure they are, and very possibly quite a bit, but there is demand for it, and they are able to sell it at that price.

Second off, $70, or $100, or whatever the hell it "would" sell for is defiantly too much, but it is completely irrelevant if they simply include one in the console and do not let you purchase one in the stores.  Hell, if it would be a $150 controller, but you can't purchase it, it doesn't really matter, although it would increase the price of the console initially (at least one would assume this being the case).



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wick on 11 June 2011
Dv8thwonder said:
wick said:

So imagine going over to a friends place back in the day and playing goldeneye with this setup.

One player has a distinct advantage over the others.

Sorry Ninty, If this is your 'masterplan', you've completely blown it.



I read your post then glanced at your sig and then I realized you are in no position to question what Nintendo does because of such a flawed logic and limited scope from a gamers perspective. Greatest gift to man...lol indeed. There's only one "advantage" and that's on the NES.


That seems like a flawed argument when your own list of favorite games has a total of 4 NES games as opposed to the 10 you have listed for the N64.

Numbers don't lie.



 

 

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