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okr said:
Kirby Wii
Zelda Skyward Sword
The Last Story
Xenoblade
Mario & Sonic Summer Olympics
Mario Party 9

Not enough?

Wait, they announced a Mario Party 9? I missed that! Sick

XenoBlade and The Last Story are also mega hyped for me, but nothing was mentioned about them, I hope they are released in Americas.

Zelda also, great game.

However I'm worried Pikmin 3 and Kirby will be delayed to the Wii U....



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oniyide said:
gumby_trucker said:

Kirby looks good. New Skyward Sword trailer just BLEW MY MIND. Looks like it's gonna be an AMAZING game!!

But I have to say overall, as an owner of a Wii only, I found the presentation quite disappointing. Announcing new hardware is always cool but the main attraction should always be software. I'm not falling for that same trick again where - like with the wiimote - the 'possible new experiences' are what sell the console... The Wii had a lot of potential new games/ways to interact shown when it came out, but most of the ideas that were shown never left the drawing board, or were only realized as mini-games.

If you are an owner of a 3DS then I think Nintendo did a phenomenal job, with so many games coming this year, and with so many cool features like multi-player in starfox and kid icarus.

But how many people own a 3DS? like, 5 million?? VS. about 90 million Wii owners who were shown nothing? Is there no such thing as recognition (better yet, gratitude) from a company to its audience for giving it its most successful console ever??

This essentially (for me at least) contradicts everything Nintendo have ever said about 'being about the software'... To me the impression was obviously that 'software is a means to sell hardware' and not the other way around as it should be... That feels like a betrayal of a pretty fundamental value to me...

I sincerely hope some deeper games are announced for Wii before the week is over.


No there isnt, welcome to the real world.

What are you talking about?? It's called 'good customer relations'... Just like having a Zelda 25th anniversary celebration by performing concerts and releasing a soundtrack, or porting four-swords over to DSiWare, or having free content on 3DS like Pokedex 3D and ExciteBike, or Sony giving away free games as an apology for the PSN outage... or, I don't know... a little thing called Club Nintendo!

Besides, unlike all these examples i'm not actually asking Nintendo to lose money. Just release 2-3 games that will sell moderately well rather than be blockbuster evergreens.



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gumby_trucker said:
oniyide said:
gumby_trucker said:

Kirby looks good. New Skyward Sword trailer just BLEW MY MIND. Looks like it's gonna be an AMAZING game!!

But I have to say overall, as an owner of a Wii only, I found the presentation quite disappointing. Announcing new hardware is always cool but the main attraction should always be software. I'm not falling for that same trick again where - like with the wiimote - the 'possible new experiences' are what sell the console... The Wii had a lot of potential new games/ways to interact shown when it came out, but most of the ideas that were shown never left the drawing board, or were only realized as mini-games.

If you are an owner of a 3DS then I think Nintendo did a phenomenal job, with so many games coming this year, and with so many cool features like multi-player in starfox and kid icarus.

But how many people own a 3DS? like, 5 million?? VS. about 90 million Wii owners who were shown nothing? Is there no such thing as recognition (better yet, gratitude) from a company to its audience for giving it its most successful console ever??

This essentially (for me at least) contradicts everything Nintendo have ever said about 'being about the software'... To me the impression was obviously that 'software is a means to sell hardware' and not the other way around as it should be... That feels like a betrayal of a pretty fundamental value to me...

I sincerely hope some deeper games are announced for Wii before the week is over.


No there isnt, welcome to the real world.

What are you talking about?? It's called 'good customer relations'... Just like having a Zelda 25th anniversary celebration by performing concerts and releasing a soundtrack, or porting four-swords over to DSiWare, or having free content on 3DS like Pokedex 3D and ExciteBike, or Sony giving away free games as an apology for the PSN outage... or, I don't know... a little thing called Club Nintendo!

Besides, unlike all these examples i'm not actually asking Nintendo to lose money. Just release 2-3 games that will sell moderately well rather than be blockbuster evergreens.

please dont misunderstand me, i agree with everything you say, you dont think i dont want games for Wii?? But IMHO some people are just naive. I knew this was how it was going to shake down with the WIi, in an ideal world it would still be getting support ala how PS2 did and even now does, but this is not that world and its clear to me that Ninty is putting Wii to rest. Pikmin 3 moving to Wii U only solidifys my claim, if i were you id start saving for WII u, i know i probably will



oniyide said:

please dont misunderstand me, i agree with everything you say, you dont think i dont want games for Wii?? But IMHO some people are just naive. I knew this was how it was going to shake down with the WIi, in an ideal world it would still be getting support ala how PS2 did and even now does, but this is not that world and its clear to me that Ninty is putting Wii to rest. Pikmin 3 moving to Wii U only solidifys my claim, if i were you id start saving for WII u, i know i probably will

Wii was never going to have support as good as ps2, I don't think anybody is claiming that.. But I do think that abandoning your most successful product ever* is a bad business decision. Nintendo still have the opportunity to redeem themselves with a trickle of top notch releases (such as DQX) so we'll see how it plays out.

This bit of news here may or may not mean the Wii still has a final ace up its sleeve, though I'm not holding my breath.

(*it's either Wii or DS, depending on how you factor hardware sales vs. software sales)



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gumby_trucker said:
Khuutra said:
gumby_trucker said:
noname2200 said:
gumby_trucker said:

I don't get it... I just watched a replay of the Nintendo conference on their site. Unless I missed something, Wii wasn't even mentioned during the whole conference! (Zelda SS and a golden remote being mentioned out of context is all I saw...)

Did I black out and miss something??

I mean somebody who didn't know any better might have watched the whole thing and not even notice Wii existed as a Nintendo product.... WTF???

What do you mean? The Wiimote was front and center through much of the presentation. Only now you're going to hook it up with an iPad instead of a TV.

I'm not sure if you're joking, but Wiimote is not the same as Wii console... that's like saying gamecube still lives because the Wii is compatible with its controller...
Was footage of a single game for Wii actually shown at all??


http://e3.nintendo.com/games/#/wii/

The Kirby trailer, at the least, is fantastic. Skyward Sword trailer is nice too, of course.

Kirby looks good. New Skyward Sword trailer just BLEW MY MIND. Looks like it's gonna be an AMAZING game!!

But I have to say overall, as an owner of a Wii only, I found the presentation quite disappointing. Announcing new hardware is always cool but the main attraction should always be software. I'm not falling for that same trick again where - like with the wiimote - the 'possible new experiences' are what sell the console... The Wii had a lot of potential new games/ways to interact shown when it came out, but most of the ideas that were shown never left the drawing board, or were only realized as mini-games.

If you are an owner of a 3DS then I think Nintendo did a phenomenal job, with so many games coming this year, and with so many cool features like multi-player in starfox and kid icarus.

But how many people own a 3DS? like, 5 million?? VS. about 90 million Wii owners who were shown nothing? Is there no such thing as recognition (better yet, gratitude) from a company to its audience for giving it its most successful console ever??

This essentially (for me at least) contradicts everything Nintendo have ever said about 'being about the software'... To me the impression was obviously that 'software is a means to sell hardware' and not the other way around as it should be... That feels like a betrayal of a pretty fundamental value to me...

I sincerely hope some deeper games are announced for Wii before the week is over.

It would seem that you are just now realizing that Nintendo is still a company first and foremost. Their strategy is clear. They've survived the past couple years with limited software on the Wii and they believe they can do it one last time before the Wii U comes out. Don't they have a new Just Dance game coming out for Wii? That game should be on pace to sell tons. As for the Wii U they want to bring in the demographic that didn't buy the original Wii. They also looked at their biggest seller which is the DS and made the Wii into a bigger DS kinda like what Apple did in creating the iPad from the iPod touch. As for no DS announcements, I don't think it needed it as the DS is outselling the 3DS. They don't want that to continue! All in all their strategy makes sense but it sucks for those not ready to upgrade to a 3DS right now and those looking for some great new games for the Wii leading up to the Wii U. I think the thing that makes the Wii drought seem so bad is Nintendo fans can't really count on 3rd party software as much.



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Goddbless said:

It would seem that you are just now realizing that Nintendo is still a company first and foremost. Their strategy is clear. They've survived the past couple years with limited software on the Wii and they believe they can do it one last time before the Wii U comes out. Don't they have a new Just Dance game coming out for Wii? That game should be on pace to sell tons. As for the Wii U they want to bring in the demographic that didn't buy the original Wii. They also looked at their biggest seller which is the DS and made the Wii into a bigger DS kinda like what Apple did in creating the iPad from the iPod touch. As for no DS announcements, I don't think it needed it as the DS is outselling the 3DS. They don't want that to continue! All in all their strategy makes sense but it sucks for those not ready to upgrade to a 3DS right now and those looking for some great new games for the Wii leading up to the Wii U. I think the thing that makes the Wii drought seem so bad is Nintendo fans can't really count on 3rd party software as much.

Well this is my first console if that makes things any more clear as to why I'm not used to this. Regarding your last comment, lack of third party support certainly makes things much worse. So far there are exactly 2 games that I am buying for Wii throughout all of 2011. I may go back and buy some older games I missed depending on how much free time I have...



Until you've played it, every game is a system seller!

the original trolls

Wii FC: 4810 9420 3131 7558
MHTri: name=BOo BoO/ID=BZBLEX/region=US

mini-games on consoles, cinematic games on handhelds, what's next? GameBoy IMAX?

Official Member of the Pikmin Fan Club

gumby_trucker said:
oniyide said:

please dont misunderstand me, i agree with everything you say, you dont think i dont want games for Wii?? But IMHO some people are just naive. I knew this was how it was going to shake down with the WIi, in an ideal world it would still be getting support ala how PS2 did and even now does, but this is not that world and its clear to me that Ninty is putting Wii to rest. Pikmin 3 moving to Wii U only solidifys my claim, if i were you id start saving for WII u, i know i probably will

Wii was never going to have support as good as ps2, I don't think anybody is claiming that.. But I do think that abandoning your most successful product ever* is a bad business decision. Nintendo still have the opportunity to redeem themselves with a trickle of top notch releases (such as DQX) so we'll see how it plays out.

This bit of news here may or may not mean the Wii still has a final ace up its sleeve, though I'm not holding my breath.

(*it's either Wii or DS, depending on how you factor hardware sales vs. software sales)


man, i think its dumb to abandon it too, but i said that they would and they kinda have. Im not happy with it, (especially no Mario Tennis) but what are you going to do??? I can only scream and yell so much. I know one thing, if they pull a Pikmin 3 with Mario Tennis/Golf im buying a Wii U used out of spite



TheSource said:

There were a couple of new Wii games shown on the floor itself

Kirby, Rhythm Heaven, Fortune Street, Mario Party 9, Wii Play Motion were all there.

But of these, only Mario Party 9 was actually new - the others had all been shown (or in the case of Fortune Street, released already [in Japan]) before.  Whatever way you look at it, there are very slim pickings for Wii owners from now on, and the Wii U could still be 18 months away.  Such a situation with the GameCube was disappointing, but understandable given the low userbase/software sales.  For the market leading home console, I think it's a bit disgraceful - if I was a shareholder, I would want to know why the company wasn't taking advantage of such a large userbase by releasing at least a few titles from sure-seller franchises thus far (and presumably now always to be) ignored this generation.  (And surely Luigi's Mansion 2 lends itself more to Wiimote control than touchscreen control?)



Declan said:
TheSource said:

There were a couple of new Wii games shown on the floor itself

Kirby, Rhythm Heaven, Fortune Street, Mario Party 9, Wii Play Motion were all there.

But of these, only Mario Party 9 was actually new - the others had all been shown (or in the case of Fortune Street, released already [in Japan]) before.  Whatever way you look at it, there are very slim pickings for Wii owners from now on, and the Wii U could still be 18 months away.  Such a situation with the GameCube was disappointing, but understandable given the low userbase/software sales.  For the market leading home console, I think it's a bit disgraceful - if I was a shareholder, I would want to know why the company wasn't taking advantage of such a large userbase by releasing at least a few titles from sure-seller franchises thus far (and presumably now always to be) ignored this generation.  (And surely Luigi's Mansion 2 lends itself more to Wiimote control than touchscreen control?)

I agree with this 100%

oniyide said:


man, i think its dumb to abandon it too, but i said that they would and they kinda have. Im not happy with it, (especially no Mario Tennis) but what are you going to do??? I can only scream and yell so much. I know one thing, if they pull a Pikmin 3 with Mario Tennis/Golf im buying a Wii U used out of spite

LOL



Until you've played it, every game is a system seller!

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mini-games on consoles, cinematic games on handhelds, what's next? GameBoy IMAX?

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