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superchunk on 26 April 2011
wfz said:

The controller looks too simplistic. I'm trying to imagine playing Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Battlefield (or any FPS) game on it.

 

There aren't even shoulder buttons. I'm waiting until E3 to see what's up. Whatever it is I can't wait to see it in person and maybe try it out.


I agree, that's why in the OP its essentially a classic controller with a screen and more like a 3DS setup.... plus 2nd stick.



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Play4Fun on 26 April 2011

 Let's wait for E3. People are usually wrong about these things when it comes to Nintendo.



TX109 on 26 April 2011

lol...bears go to the superbowl...lol

anywho, a very interesting idea. i have heard something along the same lines elsewhere. i have also read read another persons theory(which was linked on this sight, but i cant find it now). He envisioned a controller with only 2 analog sticks, shoulder buttons, and maybe triggers. he said the whole front(besides the sticks) would be a touch screen designed to allow devs to make their own controller layouts and buttons right on the touch screen. nintendo and devs could even allow the consumer to make their own controller schemes. this screen would also be used for quick minigames(lock picking, hacking, small puzzle, ect.).

i added some to the original idea. interesting? too expensive?.....btw, i love that mock up. little to big though.



                                                                                                  
JMan on 26 April 2011
ilovetogame said:

that controller looks cool and all except its HUGE!!! only way it would be that big is if nintendo is just planning on getting rid of using tv screens and there's a hub system that you put the games into and does all the computin and just streams it wirelessly out to the controller screens.

That's an interesting idea...  Main hub, you replace it every once in a while and you continue to use the same controllers.  You get game streams, video streams, etc. on your little personal gaming device.

Nah, that doesn't sound like Nintendo.  I'm sure the consideration of the name "stream" is entirely for comedic effect, just like the name "Wii".

I mean, think about it.  This is the Wii 2 Stream, or put another way, it's a Wii-Wii Stream.



homer on 26 April 2011

The ngp could potentially do nearly the same thing with the ps3, which would be epic.



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superchunk on 26 April 2011
homer said:

The ngp could potentially do nearly the same thing with the ps3, which would be epic.


That's an interesting note. I don't think the streaming idea was in the initial design, but to me it would probably only require software updates to PS3 and the still being finalized NGP.

This could allow Sony to not build a PS4 for a few more years and still combat N6. Interesting.



gekkokamen on 26 April 2011
superchunk said:

Preface: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=127423

In my previous thread I mentioned that the next system will have the rumored controller with a high quality screen (i.e. the 3DS top screen) as well as a wiimote in the box. This way its still a fully functional Wii plus the new system's horsepower and base controller that's the same as other consoles so 3rd parties have easier access.

Now I was thinking more on the streaming name and concept as well as the Project cafe name. What is in a cafe that made Nintendo pick that as a project name? Well a cafe is a very social place where all the groups may be doing something together or very likely doing their own separate things while using the free wifi.

So, with that this is what I see as Nintendo's big push for this system.

Imagine you have two kids. You are sitting in the front room, where the Nintendo Stream is also located. You are watching Sunday NFL and rooting on your Bears to take the Superbowl. Little Timmah playing Call of Duty 8: Kill the Foriegners on the Stream.... but how can you watch the game at the same time on same screen? That's where the screen on the controller comes in.

Not only does it allow better options for multiplayer and menu systems, it also allows you to utilize the system without the need to use the TV. Timmah can play his game, while dad watches real football, AND his sister Penny watches some cartoons off of Netflix that is also streaming from Stream to her controller.

See it? This is the future. Nintendo is taking the portability from tons of phones and tablets and giving that streaming capability through its systems along with far superior gaming and real controls. Its providing a home console experience in a nearly portable manner. Its allowing everyone to enjoy the same system in the way they want to at the exact same time without the need rely on others directly.

Its created a home cafe.

This fits my previous thread perfectly with the system having full media capabilities, full online, full games from Nintendo and 3rd parties, full motion as well as standard controller, full android/ios capabilities (I think Android Apps may very well come to the system), etc.

E3 2011 and/or 2012 (depending on this being playable this year) is going to be 2006 all over again.

 

EDIT: To add a more realistic example from my own life.....

My wife can be watching her insanely annoying crap TV while I play Zelda or something else, then when her show is over, I can change the TV back to my game and turn off the screen on the controller.

Bolded:  Streaming both Nextflix AND playing a game remotely at the same time? Uh, no. No way that console will be able to handle that, sorry. Too much processing power and  bandwith required to do that well.

Anyway, I don't really see the advantage of doing this multitasking unreleated  to gaming. Ever heard of multiple tv sets? If you tell me I could play my game on the Wii2 and then take it with me on the 3DS, like some Sony NGP games promise to do, then that would be something special. I seriously doubt Nintendo can put a DS in your hands as a controller and sell that along with the console for a competitive price. So that new controller will either be limited to simple gameplay or it will cost around $100 just by itself.



superchunk on 26 April 2011
gekkokamen said:

Bolded:  Streaming both Nextflix AND playing a game remotely at the same time? Uh, no. No way that console will be able to handle that, sorry. Too much processing power and  bandwith required to do that well.

Anyway, I don't really see the advantage of doing this multitasking unreleated  to gaming. Ever heard of multiple tv sets? If you tell me I could play my game on the Wii2 and then take it with me on the 3DS, like some Sony NGP games promise to do, then that would be something special. I seriously doubt Nintendo can put a DS in your hands as a controller and sell that along with the console for a competitive price. So that new controller will either be limited to simple gameplay or it will cost around $100 just by itself.

While you could be right and it *could* be too limited, however, considering 360 can play a game, have cross game chats, handle various messages in background, etc, etc. ... and low end PCs can do that and far more... I don't see why it won't be possible based on the rumors of N6.

As far as multiple TV sets.. sure. But means multiple devices (pcs, tablets, gaming consoles, internet connections, etc) to allow that to happen. This proposed idea allows it all through one device. Far better for most consumers.

Also, the system is the computing system, not the controller. Since I see tablets (with full computers in them and 7" touch screens) for ~$100 bucks, I'm sure a controller with only a touch screen could sell for less than $60.



homer on 27 April 2011
superchunk said:
homer said:

The ngp could potentially do nearly the same thing with the ps3, which would be epic.


That's an interesting note. I don't think the streaming idea was in the initial design, but to me it would probably only require software updates to PS3 and the still being finalized NGP.

This could allow Sony to not build a PS4 for a few more years and still combat N6. Interesting.


I would tell them to capitalize on this, but the cost of the ngp for the use of a "controller" would be most definately too great. $300x4 for controllers would make this feature DOA.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius