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leatherhat on 19 January 2011

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poroporo on 19 January 2011
A203D said:
poroporo said:
leatherhat said:
poroporo said:
leatherhat said:

Putting in disk checks would be an equally effective and more consumer friendly thing to do


Disk checks can be bypassed with a simple patch. Key activation on a remote server isn't easily hackable.

 

They've done wonders for stopping PC piracy

That'll keep em offline though. Have fun with your Wii-station 3, hackers!

but then these hackers cant play online or they'll be banned, which shuts up Activision, i think Sony are more interested in that than piracy tbh.

Oh, definitely. They need to preserve a decent online experience for their paying customers.



alekth on 19 January 2011

Obviously will stop pirates from playing online, but that also sort of means that either Sony can't come up with how to ban from PSN upon detection or that they simply want to do away with the used market and this is a good excuse to do so.



fordy on 19 January 2011

Does anybody else think that this will encourage stores that specialise in used games (EB, Gamestop etc) to convince potential console buyers to buy anything other than the PS3, since it would mean more potential profits down the track with used titles.



A203D on 19 January 2011
ivanpgcs said:
A203D said:
NiKKoM said:

So what about people who doesn't have their PS3 hooked on the internet.. they just won't be able to play new games forever?

No i dont think so, because not everyone has internet access. i think the code only works with the disk. so say you buy God of War 3.

theres an algorythm on the disk that accepts the code you type in and tells you PS3 that the copy is genuine. however, if your not connected to PSN, i dont see how Sony cant know how many times you've used the same code, because the information on a disk cant change (its write only), so the disk dosent know how many times you've used the code.

any answers anyone??

 

but if someone distributed the game and the serial in internet, people not connected to Internet can play that copy, right?

This is what i dont understand, because this is basically the same as using an illegal copy of Windows, so i dont know why pirates would connect to the internet. but then if you have the internet your most likely going to be on PSN.

but then pirates also cant connect to the internet or they would be banned, or prevented from running the game at all, so if they cant access the PSN network, how cant they distribute their hacks. so it seems like a well thought out process imho, but i'm no expert, theres probabily a way to connect to PSN and distribute your hack without actully being a member of PSN.



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NiKKoM on 19 January 2011
fordy said:

Does anybody else think that this will encourage stores that specialise in used games (EB, Gamestop etc) to convince potential console buyers to buy anything other than the PS3, since it would mean more potential profits down the track with used titles.


yeah they will probably give less shelve space for the PS3 and push the 360 version for multiplat games.. I can see that happening..



 

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alekth on 19 January 2011

A203D said:

This is what i dont understand, because this is basically the same as using an illegal copy of Windows, so i dont know why pirates would connect to the internet. but then if you have the internet your most likely going to be on PSN.

but then pirates also cant connect to the internet or they would be banned, or prevented from running the game at all, so if they cant access the PSN network, how cant they distribute their hacks. so it seems like a well thought out process imho, but i'm no expert, theres probabily a way to connect to PSN and distribute your hack without actully being a member of PSN.

You don't need to distribute a hack throgh PSN, if you mean the code or any patches, CFW and whatnot. Once they hack the BD check, it's like PC piracy. DL the iso or whatever it is BD get ripped into plus a txt with the code. Nothing will change for offline piracy play.



Galaki on 19 January 2011

Well played Sony. An excuse to kill of used games market.



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Acevil on 19 January 2011
fordy said:

Does anybody else think that this will encourage stores that specialise in used games (EB, Gamestop etc) to convince potential console buyers to buy anything other than the PS3, since it would mean more potential profits down the track with used titles.


Actually it makes me consider buying 360 only multiplatform games, just when I switched to buying ps3 mostly multiplatform games. Honestly can't blame sony for the move, but they have to accept that multiplatform console owners won't take this well. 



 

A203D on 19 January 2011
alekth said:

A203D said:

This is what i dont understand, because this is basically the same as using an illegal copy of Windows, so i dont know why pirates would connect to the internet. but then if you have the internet your most likely going to be on PSN.

but then pirates also cant connect to the internet or they would be banned, or prevented from running the game at all, so if they cant access the PSN network, how cant they distribute their hacks. so it seems like a well thought out process imho, but i'm no expert, theres probabily a way to connect to PSN and distribute your hack without actully being a member of PSN.

You don't need to distribute a hack throgh PSN, if you mean the code or any patches, CFW and whatnot. Once they hack the BD check, it's like PC piracy. DL the iso or whatever it is BD get ripped into plus a txt with the code. Nothing will change for offline piracy play.

Yes, thanks for that. so it seems now that this system is mainly designed to prevent people from distrupting online play. athough we know that this is more to do with Activision and not to do with the PS3's security.

and i dont think this is too bad for used game sales, you buy a game you use 1 code, the store uses 1 code to check how many you have left, if you have 1, 2 or 3 codes, i dont see why the game cant be resold. when you trade things into some stores here in the UK, they check if its still in working condition anyway.

this is no different from that imho. the only problem is when you've used all 5 codes, then your game is useless.